ChristoFascist Psychotic Bryan Fischer

Cherry-picking buybull thumper ChristoFascist of Hate, Bryan Fischer
Cherry-picking buybull thumper ChristoFascist of Hate, Bryan Fischer

INTRODUCING, PSYCHOTIC, CHERRY-PICKING, BUYBULL THUMPER, CHRISTOFASCIST OF HATE, BRYAN FISCHER.

The Southern Poverty Law Center describes Bryan Fischer as the following:

Bryan Fischer, a nationally syndicated Christian radio host, has a long history of anti-gay activism. In 2009, he began garnering national attention after he was hired by the American Family Association (AFA), which the Southern Poverty Law Center listed as an anti-gay hate group in 2010. Since joining the AFA as director of issue analysis for government and public policy, Fischer has used the group’s website and its radio network to promote outrageous and false claims about LGBT people, Muslims, Native Americans and African Americans. Despite Fischer’s extreme views – like blaming gay men for the Holocaust, calling for the criminalization of homosexuality, and calling for the banning of Muslim immigration to the U.S. – prominent conservatives continue to appear on Fischer’s radio show.

Background
Bryan J. Fischer’s early years were spent in Colorado, according to One News Now, an American Family Association (AFA) online news source. His family moved to northern California when he was in the eighth grade. Fischer developed his religious beliefs initially through his father, a Baptist pastor. He attended Stanford University and, while a student there, got involved with Peninsula Bible Church, where the pastor preached what Fischer calls a “masculine, muscular Christianity” that appealed to him. Fischer graduated from Stanford University with a bachelor’s degree in philosophy but continued to study and serve as a pastoral intern at Peninsula. While there, he met and married his wife, Debbie. Fischer then attended the Dallas Theological Seminary, where he received a graduate degree in theology. In 1980, he and his wife moved to Boise, Idaho.

In Boise, Fischer was affiliated with Cole Community Church, where he founded and directed the Cole Center for Biblical Studies. Thirteen years later, he founded Community Church of the Valley, where he served for 12 years as pastor. But Fischer wasn’t just preaching; he became active in politics and networked with a variety of conservative legislators. In 2001, he was appointed chaplain to the Idaho Senate.

In early 2004, while still at Community Church, Fischer co-founded the “Keep the Commandments Coalition,” with Boise pro-life activist Brandi Swindell, in an attempt to block the removal of a Ten Commandments monument from a Boise public park. The city was planning to return the monument to the Fraternal Order of Eagles, which had placed it in the park in 1965. Keep the Commandments Coalition filed a lawsuit to prevent the removal, but U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge turned down its request and on April 8, 2004, he ordered Swindell and Fischer (and Swindell’s group, Generation Life) to pay more than $10,000 in city attorney fees. In 2006, the coalition succeeded in getting the monument issue onto a local ballot, but Boise voters overwhelmingly approved the removal. By 2008, neither Fischer nor Swindell had paid the ordered attorney fees, and the city notified the two that the amount was overdue. Eventually, Fischer and Swindell asked supporters for donations and paid off the full amount.

Fischer left the Community Church of the Valley in 2005 under unknown circumstances (the church changed its name to Christian Life Fellowship a year later) and started the Idaho Values Alliance (IVA), which was loosely allied with the AFA. The IVA’s mission under Fischer, according to its website in 2007, was to promote and defend “our God-given rights and liberties,” promote and defend religious freedom, the Judeo-Christian tradition, the sanctity of the family, sanctity of life, and to “promote judicial responsibility and restrain judicial activism.”

From this new pulpit, Fischer found a few more callings that would boost his profile: public crusades against LGBT people, lobbying the legislature against gay rights, and becoming the face of Idaho Christian conservatism in local media. The media-savvy “Reverend,” as he was known, was always available for a sound bite or quote with regard to “family values,” and he found a platform to espouse his conservative opinions on topics that ranged from women’s issues, health, science, constitutional law, climate change, civil rights and LGBT people. Fischer was described in a 2009 editorial at NewWest.net as constantly “lobbying for anti-everything causes.”

Fischer jumped into debates about LGBT rights with zeal. His quotes appeared hundreds of times in Idaho news outlets as the conservative “balance” to LGBT rights supporters. He and the IVA launched a public campaign against LGBT people that culminated in the 2006 passage of Amendment 2 to the Idaho constitution. The amendment prohibits same-sex marriage and prohibits the state and local governments from recognizing any kind of domestic legal union unless it’s between a man and a woman, effectively disenfranchising Idaho’s LGBT couples.

Fischer’s anti-gay propagandizing has long relied heavily on falsehoods that can be traced to the discredited psychologist Paul Cameron. Like Cameron, Fischer has equated homosexuality with pedophilia; claimed that same-sex parents are a danger to children; claimed that LGBT people don’t live as long as heterosexual people; and said that LGBT people are more promiscuous and more prone to domestic violence than heterosexuals. He also has falsely claimed that hate crime laws protect pedophiles.

Fischer found another way to denigrate the LGBT community when he discovered the Holocaust revisionist work of Scott Lively, whose Abiding Truth Ministries was first listed as an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2007. Lively’s Pink Swastika makes the claim that the Nazi Party was filled with gay men (and that Hitler himself was gay), and that because of the “savage nature” of gay men, they were able to instigate and carry out the Holocaust. Lively’s work has been roundly and fully discredited by reputable historians, but facts never seem to bother Fischer. He touted Lively and his bizarre Holocaust revisionism in 2008 on the IVA website, agreeing wholeheartedly with Lively’s claims that gay men caused the Holocaust, and he has since continued to reference Lively’s work to link homosexuality to the Nazi Party (most recently in 2010).

For the amount of media attention Fischer received as executive director of the IVA, it was a small operation. Fischer was the only paid employee, and his wife, Debbie, and daughter, Jana, were listed as trustees in 2006. In the group’s 2008 annual report, Debbie was listed as the secretary and treasurer, and Jana was still a trustee, though based in Indiana. The IVA struggled financially; its revenue was only $9,000 in 2006.

In June 2009, Fischer announced on the IVA website that he had accepted a position with the AFA. He seemed to have had some trouble finding someone to take the helm of the IVA, however, and the group went into hiatus. The IVA’s 2009 tax returns listed Tupelo, Miss., as the address – Fischer and family moved there, where the AFA is based –  and it wasn’t until September 2010 that Gary Brown, up until then a pastor of NorthStar Church in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, known for his abstinence-only beliefs, became the new IVA director.

Fischer continued his campaign against LGBT people when he joined the AFA, where he serves as a radio host and blogger at the AFA website “Rightly Concerned” and at the Christian website RenewAmerica. In 2009, his posts became aggressively anti-Muslim. It didn’t take long for his inflammatory rhetoric in that regard to attract national attention. The horrific event that propelled him onto the national stage was the November 2009 massacre at Fort Hood, Texas, in which Major Nidal Hasan shot 12 people to death. In response, Fischer called for the U.S. military to ban Muslims. His statements landed him soon after on former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann’s “Worst Person” list.

Since then, Fischer has called for a ban on Muslim immigration to the U.S., said that inbreeding may have affected Muslim intelligence and sanity, and claimed that the Bill of Rights grants freedom of religion only to Christians. He has also continued his virulent anti-gay propagandizing, calling for the regulation of homosexuality in the same manner the U.S. regulates cigarettes, and said that homosexuality should be as illegal as IV drug use, and that, “Ultimately we need to get to appropriate sanctions for the act [of gay sex] itself.”

In 2010, Fischer’s columns began appearing on the ironically named “Moral Liberal” website, which claims to be “liberal” in the tradition of the Founding Fathers. The Moral Liberal’s mission is to promote “the Judeo-Christian ethic, limited government, and That Heavenly Banner: The U.S. Constitution.” Other contributors include self-proclaimed Christian “Patriot” Chuck Baldwin; right-wing grande dame Phyllis Schlafly; World Net Daily columnist and antigovernment activist Henry Lamb; and Selwyn Duke, a frequent commentator on the hate-laced Michael Savage radio show.

Some of Fischer’s statements have entered the realm of the absurd. In a November 2010 blog post at the AFA site, Fischer groused that the Medal of Honor, like American culture in general, was being “feminized” because it was awarded to soldiers who saved their comrades rather than soldiers who “killed people.” Fischer demanded to know when it would be awarded again to “soldiers who kill people and break things so our families can sleep safely at night.” In another post that month, he called for “open season” on grizzly bears because two people were killed by bears in 2010 and “God makes it clear in Scripture that deaths of people and livestock at the hands of savage beasts is a sign that the land is under a curse.”

In 2010, the AFA distanced itself from Fischer’s views, despite keeping him on staff and giving him a two-hour daily radio show, which is heard on nearly 200 radio stations owned and operated by the AFA’s American Family Radio network. In 2010, a disclaimer started showing up on Fischer’s blog posts stating, “Unless otherwise noted, the opinions expressed are the author’s and do not necessarily reflect the views of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.”

In a blog post in early February 2011, Fischer claimed that Native Americans deserved to lose control of North America because their “superstition, savagery and sexual immorality” morally disqualified them from “sovereign control of American soil.” Furthermore, Indian reservations remain mired in poverty and alcoholism because they refuse to accept Christianity. That post created such an outcry, even for Fischer, that the AFA removed it from its blog site. The post also disappeared from RenewAmerica. A young AFA staffer, Elijah Friedeman, 17, issued his own statement on the AFA blog, in which he called Fischer’s claims “repulsive.” He also stated, “I want to officially reject and distance myself from that viewpoint.” The AFA removed Friedeman’s post, as well.

The AFA also changed a post Fischer wrote in early April 2011 that called for Muslims to get rid of their Islamic beliefs before they come to the United States. Three paragraphs of the post were rewritten; the edited version called instead for people who wanted to immigrate to adopt “our values, our heroes, and our history.” Fischer followed that about a week later with a blog post claiming that government welfare ruins African-American families by encouraging them to “rut like rabbits.” The wording of the post was later changed to state that random and reckless promiscuity is bad, whether someone is “Caucasian, Hispanic, or African-American.”

On his radio show on May 12, 2011, Fischer fulminated about First Lady Michelle Obama’s invitation to the rapper Common to read poetry at the White House. Fischer said Common was “cut from the same bolt of cloth” as the president. Obama, he claimed, “nurtures this hatred for the United States of America and, I believe, nurtures a hatred for the white man.”

Despite the fact that he’s finally seemed to run afoul of even the AFA’s standards, Fischer keeps getting attention, even in the mainstream media. In January 2011, Newsweek published a profile, calling him “the media’s new poster boy for right-wing extremism.” But none of his antics have stopped the stream of notable conservative guests from appearing on his show. His guests have included a number of high-profile politicians, including Mike Huckabee, Tim Pawlenty, Michele Bachmann, Haley Barbour and Newt Gingrich.

Despite the embrace of mainstream figures on the right, Fischer’s propaganda grew ever more ludicrous. In 2011, he asserted that LGBT people are America’s leading perpetrators of hate crimes. The reality is, they are the group most victimized by hate crimes. In January 2012, Fischer claimed that the HIV virus is a “harmless microbe” that does not cause AIDS.

In His Own Words
“Homosexuals are rarely monogamous and have as many as 300 to 1,000 sexual partners over the course of a lifetime. … [T]he risk of sexual abuse in a homosexual household is much greater than in a heterosexual household.”
– Bryan Fischer Web post, “The Truth about Gay Marriage and Civil Unions,” 2006

“It is time, I suggest, to stop the practice of allowing Muslims to serve in the U.S. military. The reason is simple: the more devout a Muslim is, the more of a threat he is to national security.”
– Bryan Fischer Web post, “No More Muslims in the U.S. Military,” 2009

“Homosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and six million dead Jews.”
– Bryan Fischer Web post, “Homosexuality, Hitler, and ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,'” 2010

“[T]he most compassionate thing we can do for Americans is to bring a halt to the immigration of Muslims into the U.S. This will protect our national security and preserve our national identity, culture, ideals and values. Muslims, by custom and religion, are simply unwilling to integrate into cultures with Western values and it is folly to pretend otherwise. In fact, they remain dedicated to subjecting all of America to sharia law and are working ceaselessly until that day of Islamic imposition comes.”
– Bryan Fischer Web post, “Time to Restrict Muslim Immigration to the U.S., Send Them Back Home,” 2010

“Many of the tribal reservations today remain mired in poverty and alcoholism because many native [sic] Americans continue to cling to the darkness of indigenous superstition instead of coming into the light of Christianity and assimilating into Christian culture.”
– Bryan Fischer Web post, “Native Americans Morally Disqualified Themselves from the Land,” 2011

“Welfare has destroyed the African-American family by telling young black women that husbands and fathers are unnecessary and obsolete. … We have incentivized fornication rather than marriage, and it’s no wonder we are now awash in the disastrous social consequences of people who rut like rabbits.”
– Bryan Fischer Web post, “Jesus Groomed His Apostles for Political Office,” 2011

Bryan Fischer, a nationally syndicated Christian radio host, has a long history of anti-gay activism.

 

Various Stories about Bryan Fischer.

Fischer: The Media Is Collapsing Because It Has Been Mean To Kim Davis

On his radio program today, Bryan Fischer continued to complain about the fact that the Vatican has distanced itself from Kim Davis after the controversial Kentucky county clerk met with Pope Francis when both were in Washington, D.C., last month.

Fischer blamed the “low-information media” for supposedly trying to destroy Davis’ reputation and asserted that it is just this sort of thing that is causing the institution to collapse.

“Nobody is watching the low-information media anymore,” he said. “Their rating are going through the basement. Newspapers are closing down, they’re shutting down, they can’t sell subscriptions, they can’t sell advertising space. Why is that? It’s become of stuff like this, because of what the low-information media does, they way they turn on good-hearted, ordinary decent people like Kim Davis. Demonize her, vilify her, mock her, ridicule her and the American people say, ‘No, I’m not down with that. That’s not an American thing to do. That’s not fair. There’s nothing kind about that.'”

“They want to harpoon this woman,” he stated, “and that’s why people are turned to the low-information media.”

Bryan Fischer Says The Media Is Collapsing Because It Has Been Mean To Kim Davis

Right Wing Watch article: Fischer: The Media Is Collapsing Because It Has Been Mean To Kim Davis

Words Have Consequences: Anti-LGBT Hate Crime

The American Family Association’s chief spokesman, Bryan Fischer, has a special fondness for calling gay people ugly names.

The American Family Association’s chief spokesman, Bryan Fischer, has a special fondness for calling gay people ugly names.

They are “perverts” and “sexual deviants,” he says. They are 10 times more likely to molest children than heterosexuals, he claims against all the scientific evidence. They were specially selected by Hitler because “homosexual soldiers basically had no limits” to their “savagery and brutality” — an assertion no serious historian agrees with. LGBT activists are “Nazis” who will “do the same thing to you that the Nazis did to their opponents,” he insists, and gay people are “the single greatest perpetrators of hate crimes on the planet, outside the Muslim religion.”

Well, not really. Actually, LGBT people are the minority who, by far, are the most victimized by hate crime violence in the United States.

An analysis of 14 years of FBI hate crime data by the Southern Poverty Law Center found that LGBT people are more than twice as likely to be attacked in hate crimes as black people or Jews. They are more than four times as likely to be attacked as Muslims. And they are vastly more likely to suffer violent hate crime attacks than either Latinos or, especially, white people. Fischer’s claim that gay people regularly target Christians for hate violence is completely unsupported.

Fischer and the American Family Association would certainly deny it, but it seems obvious that their reckless rhetoric contributes mightily to an atmosphere in which hate violence is all but inevitable. Fischer calls himself a Christian, but he is remarkably quick to bear false witness against his LGBT neighbors.

Words Have Consequences: Anti-LGBT Hate Crime

The Story Behind the American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer

By Judy May-Chang and Jill Kuratis

November 15, 2011

Gay-basher Bryan Fischer is famous for his bigotry. What’s less known is how ‘mainstream’ Idahoans jump-started his career.

For a week or two this August, the spotlight of national media attention cast a harsh light on a prayer rally in Houston entitled “The Response: A Call to Prayer for a Nation in Crisis.” Although it was billed as a non-political event held only to ask God for unity and righteousness, The Response drew a roster of hard-line religious rightists best known for their gay-bashing rhetoric.

Some of those who were scheduled to speak merely caused the eyes of the critics to roll, like the “prophetess” who earlier in the year blamed the mass die-off of blackbirds in Arkansas on the acceptance of homosexuality. The heavy criticism centered on the American Family Association (AFA), a group that aggressively promotes “decency” in the media with a $20 million-a-year budget and a network of some 200 American Family Radio stations, and that paid for the event.

The AFA, after all, had come under fire many times since its founding in 1977 by the Rev. Donald Wildmon, who has repeatedly suggested that obscene content on television and in the movies is largely due to the media being controlled by Jews. On one occasion, the AFA demanded that an openly gay Arizona congressman be barred from speaking at the Republican National Convention and suggested that he be arrested under a state law criminalizing sodomy. A former network entertainment executive once called the AFA’s boycotts “the first step toward a police state.”

But the criticism this summer of the AFA, fueled in part by the Southern Poverty Law Center’s 2010 listing of the organization as a hate group, really came down to the remarkable utterances of one man: Bryan Fischer, the loquacious, baby-faced “director of issue analysis” who joined the Tupelo, Miss.-based group in 2009 and has become its best known, and most eyebrow-raising, spokesman.

Fischer, 60, graduated from Stanford University with a philosophy degree, but that hasn’t stopped him from claiming that “[h]omosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and six million dead Jews” — a complete falsehood, as any historian knows.

Nor has it prevented him from suggesting that gay sex should be penalized in the same way heroin use is, or asserting that gay men and lesbians should be forced into controversial “reparative therapy,” which improbably claims to “cure” people of their homosexuality. Since joining the AFA, Fischer has said, against all the evidence, that “homosexuals, as a group, are the single greatest perpetrators of hate crimes on the planet, outside the Muslim religion.” He has claimed that non-Christian religions “have no First Amendment right to the free exercise of religion,” which would have been a surprise to the authors of the Bill of Rights. He said that the “sexual immorality of Native Americans” was part of what made them “morally disqualified from sovereign control of American soil.” He even suggested the best way to deal with promiscuity would be to kill the promiscuous.

Fischer did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

Not content with insulting the LGBT community, the sexually active, Muslims and virtually all other non-Christians, Fischer has even crossed the Rubicon of race, saying that President Obama “nurtures this hatred for the United States of America and, I believe, nurtures a hatred for the white man.” In case that wasn’t enough, he recently added that welfare had “destroyed the African American family” and was incentivizing black “people who rut like rabbits.”

These facts are well known. But what may be most remarkable of all about Fischer, aside from the fact that an organization that has more than 2 million people on its E-mail list hired him, are some of the details of how he spent almost 30 years as an increasingly radical pastor in Idaho. Despite being passed over as senior pastor of one church and abruptly leaving another, Fischer eventually came to be treated as the state’s leading voice of the Christian Right, wrote regular guest columns in the state’s largest newspaper and was named chaplain of the Idaho State Senate.

The Early Years
Bryan Fischer was born on April 8, 1951, in a small town in Colorado, and moved in his early teens to California. Later, while attending Stanford, he landed an internship at Peninsula Bible Church in Palo Alto, where he was befriended by senior pastor David Roper, a man who would influence him strongly. Three years after graduating in 1973, he married Deborah Marie Rogers, who is still his wife.

Roper had attended Dallas Theological Seminary, the top ideological powerhouse of the most conservative wing of the evangelical movement. Fischer followed in his mentor’s footsteps, graduating from the seminary in 1980.

While Fischer was in Dallas, Roper left California to become pastor of the Cole Community Church in Boise, Idaho, where he would remain for the following 17 years. Roper told the Intelligence Report that, later in 1980, he invited Fischer to join him in Idaho to help start the Cole Center for Biblical Studies. The center would become known regionally for the prominent locals who it graduated.

At the time, however, Fischer had markedly different theological views than he does today, said Dennis Mansfield, who started the Idaho Family Forum and was then the state’s leading Christian Right spokesman: “Bryan brought me in to debate about his opposition to Christians being involved in government; he was a fierce opponent of it then. My opinion was that we should be involved in everything, and his was theological isolationism. I remember three debates where I crossed swords with him and found him to be one of the most intelligent men I’d ever known. But I won the debates, and … he did not like being beaten by the likes of me.”

As time passed, Fischer increasingly embraced the strain of “dominionist” theology that suggests that Christians should seek to control government as well as spiritual matters. Simultaneously, a church insider said, Fischer developed a group of his own personal followers and was ultimately asked to leave the church.

Roper denied that, saying Fischer left because he had “decided he wanted to do more in the political realm.” But Mansfield, who remains friends with Fischer after many years, said that Fischer was passed over when Roper decided to leave Cole Community Church. “Roper announced he was leaving and that he would select a successor,” Mansfield said in an interview. “A church of three to four thousand people is a significant Pacific Northwest church to be leader of. Ultimately, when the decision was announced, Roper chose a different pastor to head it up. Bryan was dumbstruck and he told me he was resigning from his position.

“I would imagine he felt so dishonored that the order of things didn’t follow his ideas,” Mansfield said. “He and his wife were distraught they weren’t chosen. He departed Cole Community [in 1993] and never looked back.”

Mansfield said that very few people came forward to support Fischer then and that the two became close as a result. At a lunch held to discuss Fischer’s future, Mansfield said he detected “a real brokenness and humility in Bryan, and openness to new opportunities. He came up with the idea of a community church, one that would have a different angle… . That became Community Church of the Valley.”

As he consolidated his new Boise church, Fischer began to gain real prominence in the state. He was first quoted in The Idaho Statesman, the state’s largest newspaper, in 1999. It was the beginning of his rise to national stature.

“I used to be the go-to religious-right person for media in Boise because of IFF [the Idaho Family Forum],” said Mansfield, whose theological views have since softened considerably. “Then I ran for Congress and lost to [now-Gov.] Butch Otter in 2000 and, of course, became invisible. There was a gap without a spokesman for the religious right, so Bryan stood up to be that person.”

Onward and Upward
Bryan Fischer was on his way to local celebrity. But that ascent was only really cemented in 2001, when the state’s Republican then-majority leader, present-day U.S. Sen. Jim Risch, appointed him as the Idaho State Senate chaplain.

Even though the position was essentially honorary, paying $16.86 an hour to deliver prayers to the Idaho Senate, it gave Fischer easy access to the Republican leadership in a state that has long been completely dominated by the GOP. Word of the appointment of Fischer was not universally welcomed.

“The choice of one of Idaho’s most polarizing religious leaders has sent shock waves through the state’s churches and has some powerful senators reeling,” The Idaho Statesman reported in a Jan. 13, 2001, news story. It said that the Senate’s assistant majority leader and majority caucus chairman had no idea that Fischer had been hired until he delivered the opening Senate session prayer that year.

Betsy Russell, president of the Idaho Press Club and long-time Boise bureau chief for The (Spokane, Wash.) Spokesman-Review, said the post mattered. “One of the reasons he was able to achieve a platform is because he was given one by the state of Idaho quite officially: He was chaplain of the Senate. He held an official position… . I guess you could say he was a state-endorsed clergyman.”

In the immediate aftermath of Fischer’s appointment, a woman named Jennifer Boyd wrote a letter to The Idaho Statesman. Boyd said she was a former member of Fischer’s Community Church of the Valley and recounted how she was excommunicated. “Fischer removed me from his congregation after my divorce,” she wrote, “which he deemed unacceptable, non-biblical and sinful.” She angrily accused Fischer of speaking “out of both sides of his mouth. … [H]e said one thing while he did another. … [H]e judges people … based on limited knowledge.”

Despite the controversy, The Idaho Statesman began to quote Fischer regularly. Between 1999 and 2009, when Fischer would leave the state, the newspaper quoted him in nearly 100 news stories and printed 16 of his guest editorials — huge numbers in the relatively small Boise media market.

“Obviously, Fischer relies on polarizing messages that catch the attention of reporters, but it felt like he was able to control the narrative around issues of reproductive, queer and immigrant rights,” said Amy Herzfeld, executive director of the Boise-based Idaho Human Rights Education Center, a nonprofit group. “I do think that many Idaho news outlets helped Fischer earn national accolades.”

Like Jennifer Boyd, Mansfield recalled being disillusioned with his friend’s ministry. In 2000, his son was arrested for possession of a marijuana pipe. The story made the local papers because Mansfield was then running for Congress.

“We went to Bryan and asked what to do, and he was at a loss,” Mansfield said. “He didn’t have a practical solution. I thought, ‘This isn’t helping anybody!’ We went looking for another church that had solutions.” Mansfield said that families already had begun leaving the congregation “in battalions.” For him, the church had become a “professorial, debate-society culture” that did not offer solutions.

Fischer did not react well to his departure, Mansfield said. “With Bryan, it was as if I had betrayed him. I was just another person who left his church.”

Another Church Conflict
In the following years, Fischer developed a reputation for asserting men’s “authority” over women — a position that made some in his congregation uncomfortable, along with many in the larger community. On Aug. 21, 2005, for instance, Fischer said in a sermon that while Scripture says that men and women are “equal in essence and existence and worth,” they are “NOT equal in authority.”

That fall, the Dalai Lama was scheduled to visit Idaho as part of events surrounding the fourth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. In the run-up to the visit, Fischer disparaged Buddhism in remarks to his congregation, calling it a “godless myth” and a “terrible deception” that came “from the father of lies.”

But that didn’t stop him from joining an interfaith discussion with the Dalai Lama, along with 100 other representatives of a variety of faiths and denominations in the region. There, he questioned the Dalai Lama about the nature of evil, telling a reporter afterward that the Dalai Lama’s view of it was “simplistic.”

Things were coming to a head at the Community Church of the Valley. Mansfield, who had helped get the church started, said that church elders “had a meeting about a conflict with Bryan over who had the final say in the church.” Fischer insisted that he did, but Mansfield said it was actually the board.

Exactly what that conflict was remains something of a mystery. Four days after the Dalai Lama’s visit, Fischer gave his last sermon at the church he had founded 12 years earlier. The following Sunday, a former ally, elder Robert Weisel, gave an emotional sermon about the prior week, saying how “sick last Sunday” had made him and speaking of the “ruin of friends.” He mentioned how another elder had been “vilified” and apologized to his fellow elders as a group. He said without explanation that the congregation had defeated the enemy of the Gospel.

Fischer departed the church. The next summer, it changed its name to Christian Life Fellowship, but many members left for other congregations in the aftermath of what looked to the larger community like a major split.

Fischer rebounded quickly. In late 2005, he incorporated the Idaho Values Alliance (IVA) as a nonprofit controlled by Fischer, his wife and their daughter. In 2007, the IVA became the state affiliate of the American Family Association.

Off the Deep End
Fischer was now a public figure who was well known for his fondness for “hot rhetoric,” as the Idaho Press Club’s Russell put it. But he crossed another line in May 2008, when a fundamentalist conference called “Shake the Nation” was held in Idaho. One of the invited speakers was Scott Lively, whose book The Pink Swastika falsely claims that gay men largely orchestrated the Holocaust.

After getting some criticism, Fischer responded with a press release saying the book was “well researched” and “documents the well-known historical fact that the Nazi Party was birthed in a gay bar, that Adolph Hitler’s inner circle included many homosexuals, and that many if not most of the Brown Shirts, his notorious ‘Storm Troopers,’ were also homosexuals.” None of this, of course, was true.

But that didn’t seem to bother Fischer. And it clearly didn’t bother the AFA, which hired Fischer the next year as its director of issue analysis and moved him to Tupelo, Miss. Since that time, he has been a prolific blogger and the host of a daily two-hour AFA radio program, “Focal Point.” In recent months, the AFA has added a disclaimer to Fischer’s blog postings, but he remains its top spokesman.

And what a spokesman he is.

This summer, he said that despite the Supreme Court’s 2003 decision to the contrary, there is “no reason” why gay sex should not be recriminalized in all 50 states. Earlier, he summed up his view of “homosexual activists.”

“Ladies and gentlemen, they are Nazis,” he said in July on his AFA radio show. “Do not be under any illusions about what homosexual activists will do with your freedoms and your religion if they have the opportunity. They’ll do the same thing to you that the Nazis did to their opponents in Nazi Germany.”

That seems highly unlikely, to say the least. But it did underline the attitude of the AFA, whose officials did not seem to have read any of Fischer’s comments when they signed on to an ad accusing their many critics of “character assassination.”

Jody May-Chang is an independent journalist specializing in LGBT and social justice issues. Jill Kuraitis is a journalist who specializes in human rights and the Rocky Mountain West. Both are based in Idaho.

From the Southern Poverty Law Center Article: The Story Behind the American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer



CHRISTOFASCIS’S COMMENTS ON BRYAN FISCHER.

This is what happens when you come from generations of inbreeding. You get twisted, cherry-picking buybull thumping psychotic ChristoFascists like Bryan Fischer. As he demands that gays and lesbians be forced into that bullshit reparative therapy? Fischer should be picked up and immediately brought to the local Mental Health Hospital and given a full-frontal lobotomy. He is freaking brain dead any damn way, not much more harm could be done with the drilling into this ChristoFascists brain bucket and scrambling what is left of his grey matter there. It would be doing the world a favor, to allow Fischer to spend the rest of his days, drooling, in a chair in a mental ward, where he can no longer spew his Reich-Wing, Hitler, Nazi, ChristoFascist bs against anyone any longer.

 

 

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Psychotic Christo-Fascist Theodore Shoebat

Now here is a real winner. This one is a certifiable, psychopath who is more than likely going to go off the deep end one day and commit a mass murder. I am going to post a couple of articles about this psychotic, taken mostly from Right Wing Watch and his YouTube videos. My comments about this disgusting, lowlife ChristoFascists will be posted right after the posting of the stories.

Theodore Shoebat: Homosexuality Leads To Cannibalism, Kill Those Who Won’t Submit To Christianity

Psychotic, murderous, ChristoFascist, Theodore Shoebat
Psychotic, murderous, ChristoFascist, Theodore Shoebat

Theodore Shoebat posted a video yesterday calling for the institution of a “Christian collectivist society” in America in which collective punishment is imposed and where those who refuse to submit to Christianity are put to death.

As Shoebat explained, the problem with America is that it is too individualistic, only punishing criminals for the crimes they have committed instead of imposing collective punishments in an effort to root out the beliefs or behaviors that led to the crime in the first place.

For instance, he said, the correct response to the crimes of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer would have been to punish him for his transgressions, but then to also outlaw homosexuality because “it leads to serial killers, it leads to cannibalism, it leads to murder” and is a danger to the collective Christian society.

Link to video:Theodore Shoebat Says Homosexuality Should Be Outlawed Because It Leads To Murder & Cannibalism

Non-Christians would be allowed to live in this society, Shoebat magnanimously stated, provided that they “respect and honor the Christian faith.” Those who refuse to do so and seek to promote any sort of “diabolical belief system or an explicitly anti-Christian sentiment” would be put to death.

Link to Video: Theodore Shoebat Says Those Who Refuse To Submit To Christian Society Should Be Put To Death

Right Wing Watch Article: Theodore Shoebat: Homosexuality Leads To Cannibalism, Kill Those Who Won’t Submit To Christianity

Theodore Shoebat: Force Gays To Submit To Christianity Through ‘Death And Strong Suppression’

Last week, virulently anti-gay activist Theodore Shoebat posted a video declaring that gays have a deeply demonic desire to murder Christians and warning all the “sodomites” that they will one day be violently forced to submit to Christian values.

Citing reports that Kentucky clerk Kim Davis had received death threats for refusing to allow the county office to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, Shoebat said that this should come as no surprise because every gay person harbors a violent desire to kill Christians.

“When we see these threats, it really shines a light on the demonic and satanic and violent desires that these homos have,” he said. “Do not think for a second that the sodomites would treat us peacefully! Do not think for a second that the sodomites do not want to commit persecution against Christians. I do not hesitate at all to say that the sodomites — and I say this with confidence — that the sodomites would not hesitate to kill people like me, to kill Kim Davis, to kill other Christians, to kill anyone who is opposing their agenda.”

But gay activists will not be allowed to get away with persecuting and murdering Christians, Shoebat vowed, because right-wing militias are already rising up to protect people like Davis and to force gays to submit to Christianity.

“It’s either/or,” Shoebat declared. “You either make the sodomites submit to Christian morality, to the law of God, to the law of Heaven or they will force you to submit. There is no other choice … This is a message to you sodomites out there, if you are listening, expect to one day submit to us and submit to the law of God.”

Link to video: RWW News: Theodore Shoebat Says ‘Sodomites’ Will Be Forced To Submit To Christianity

And just in case Shoebat wasn’t clear on how exactly he intends to make gays submit to the law of God, he wrote a separate post once again calling for them to be put to death:

Since homosexuality is against the sacrament of marriage, which is the building block of society, then it is against the common good, and the very Faith of our civilization, and thus is an enemy to the Christian people and should be treated as sedition. Let the heretics who believe in such license read where St. Paul refers to these sodomites as “deserving of death,” and also those who “approve of those who practice them” (Romans 1:32), and let them dare say that homosexuality should be allowed in a Christian society … A small step is a great fall, and a little leaven spoils the whole batch; if we allow such wickedness to be done in incriminates [sic], then they will soon be done in great numbers. Crush the eggs of the baby serpents before they hatch. The sodomite, the atheist, the fanatic feminist, the Muslim — all such must be deemed as criminals and enemies to civilization, for they war against the Faith, promote death and hate life.

They should be told to leave their wicked ways under coercion, and if that does not work, then death and strong suppression is the only solution. We cannot allow someone the freedom to do evil, for this will only increase the presence of darkness in the society, and it will become an internal enemy … Let the governments take up the Holy Cross, and destroy the works of the devil. (1 John 3:8) Let it destroy the advancers of antichrist, and utterly annihilate the acolytes of the evil doctrines of Sodom. Christus vincit!

Allow us to point out once again that Shoebat is not just some fringe zealot, but was actually featured in Janet Porter’s anti-gay documentary “Light Wins” along with several Republican members of Congress and GOP presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Rand Paul.

Right Wing Watch Article: Theodore Shoebat: Force Gays To Submit To Christianity Through ‘Death And Strong Suppression’

Shoebat: Gays Must Be Put To Death Before Turning Boy Scouts ‘Into A Nazi-Like Gay Youth Club’

As we noted earlier this month, the fact that Theodore Shoebat consistently calls for gays to be put to death has not prevented him from regularly being interviewed on Religious Right news programs or appearing in an anti-gay film alongside several Republican lawmakers and presidential candidates.

Today, he posted a new column warning that the proposal by the Boy Scouts of America to lift the ban on gay scout masters is all part of an effort to “transform the Scouts into a Nazi-like gay youth club” that will be used to attack Christianity …. and that is why “there is only one solution to the homosexual agenda, and that is death”:

The Boy Scouts are expected to be accepting openly adult homosexual leaders, and this most dangerous move will only further enable these sodomites to rape and sexually molest young boys and male youths …  You will have sodomite Scout leaders with young men, 15 or 16 years old, what do you think is going to be occurring in those sodomites’ minds? Evil, filthy, unnatural lusts, lusts that will eventually be carried out, with the Scout leader sodomizing his innocent victims … Mark my words, when the decision to accept openly homosexual Scout leaders is made, expect the homosexuals to sodomize and rape young boys and male youths. Expect them to groom young boys and recruit them into the homosexual cause, as they have been doing for so many years now.

The sodomites molest children and teenagers, and groom them, and from such you have an army of advocates wanting the whole world to be molested.

But will you do anything about it? I doubt it.

Haven’t you people learned from the Holy Scriptures? Do not the sublime words of the prophets and the Apostles warn us and tell us? Does not the Scriptures tell us about how the people of Sodom wanted to rape the angels; does not the Scriptures tell us of the evil Benjaminites who wanted to rape the men in the house (Judges 19); does not the Apostle Paul tell us in Romans that the homosexuals are full of murder and are “inventors of evil things” (Romans 1:30)

We have ignored these words. For if we didn’t, we would know that the sodomites are constantly contriving all sorts of evils. If they want to enter the Boy Scouts, its for evil; if they want to enter the military, its for evil; if they want to enter the schools, its for evil; sports, its for evil; the Church, its for evil.

I believe that the reason why the homosexuals want to enter the Boy Scouts is because they want to recruit young boys, and transform the Scouts into a Nazi-like gay youth club; young brainwashed children who can be used as soldiers against Christianity.

This is why I say that there is only one solution to the homosexual agenda, and that is death. What does the Scriptures say? “ If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:13)

Yet this most erudite law is ignored, hated, or treated with contempt by modern Christians.

Right Wing Watch Article: Shoebat: Gays Must Be Put To Death Before Turning Boy Scouts ‘Into A Nazi-Like Gay Youth Club’

Theodore Shoebat Calls For A Global ‘Inquisition’ To Put Gays To Death

Theodore Shoebat, who was among the dozens of anti-gay activists, Republican members of Congress and GOP presidential hopefuls to be featured in Janet Porter’s recent anti-gay “Light Wins” documentary, posted a new video over the weekend calling for a global “Inquisition” to eradicate homosexuality once and for all.

Outraged over reports that a doctor had been let go by Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center for repeatedly spreading anti-gay material to colleagues, Shoebat posted a video declaring that “sodomite homo Sharia” was being imposed on America by “sodomite bastards” and “faggots” who do nothing but “go around spreading AIDS.”

The only solution, he declared, is the imposition of a global law criminalizing homosexuality that will be enforced by a modern-day Inquisition with the power to put gays to death.

“I’m sick and tired of the homo tyranny,” he said. “What the world needs is a collective law … What we need is the laws of God, the virtues of Heaven to become the law of the world. That is the bottom line. Do I believe in Christian world domination? Absolutely. I would be a liar if I said I didn’t. Do I believe in Christian supremacy? Absolutely. Do I believe in democracy? Hell no. Do I believe in some sort of a democratic socialist republic? Hell no. I believe in monarchy, I believe in Inquisitions, I believe we need to revive the system of the Middle Ages that we had; we had no fag problems, we didn’t have a lot of serial killers back in those days, we didn’t have frickin drug cartel problems, we had none of the crap. We didn’t have no fags asking to be married. None of that garbage.”

“It’s homo tyranny and it needs to be destroyed,” Shoebat continued, “Christian world domination needs to be established and homosexuality needs to be deemed as a crime. And the homos need to be told, hey, you gotta stop that and if they don’t stop that then, I’m sorry, we have an Inquisition and that Inquisition will enact the death penalty, as Scripture tells us.”

Link to video: RWW News: Theodore Shoebat Calls For A Global Inquisition To Put Gays To Death

With extreme views like this, it doesn’t come as much of a surprise to learn that places like Matt Barber’s BarbWire website are now quietly trying to cover up any ties to Shoebat.

Right Wing Watch Article: Theodore Shoebat Calls For A Global ‘Inquisition’ To Put Gays To Death

Theodore Shoebat Unhappy With Nomination Of A ‘Flaming Fag’ To Serve As Army Secretary

Theodore Shoebat is not particularly fond of gay people. In fact, he has made it quite clear time and again that he thinks that gays need to be forced to submit to Christianity or else be put to death … but that has not stopped him from regularly being interviewed on Christian news programs or being featured in an anti-gay documentary along with several Republican members of Congress and GOP presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Rand Paul.

Naturally, Shoebat was less than pleased with the news that President Obama has nominated Eric Fanning, a gay man, to serve as Secretary of the Army, so he posted a video voicing his displeasure with President Obama’s satanic effort to fill the military with “fags.”

“In 2012, Obama got rid of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” Shoebat declared, “which basically means that fags can be out in the open in their flaming fag ways, regardless of the fact that they are decreasing the morale of fellow soldiers. It doesn’t matter, they can be flaming homos right there in the U.S. military, they can be sodomizing each other right there in the military barracks.”

The nomination of “Eric Flaming Fag,” as Shoebat put it, by the “pro-fag, pro-sodomy, anti-family, anti-Christ president” is just further “evidence as to the bullcrap that we have been seeing throughout the years from this satanic administration.”

Link to video: Theodore Shoebat Unhappy With Nomination Of A ‘Flaming Fag’ To Serve As Army Secretary

Right Wing Watch Article: Theodore Shoebat Unhappy With Nomination Of A ‘Flaming Fag’ To Serve As Army Secretary



ALRIGHT THEODORE SHOEBAT…..YOU PSYCHOTIC, CHRISTOFASCIST LET’S GET SOME THINGS STRAIGHT HERE.

  1. Ever heard of the “Founding Fathers”?  Well one of them, Thomas Jefferson, would slap the spit out of you. See President Jefferson wrote his own religious freedom act and it was titled the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. Interesting what he proclaimed in section II of the act. “II. Be it enacted by the General Assembly, that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods…”. Mr Jefferson also slammed the Christian religion and Christo-Fascists like yourself many times. Now I take up Mr Jefferson’s mantle to stand up to you disgusting, demonic, evil, murderous, psychopaths I call Christo-Fascists…which YOU fit the bill perfectly. Mr Jefferson, would in fact, take your sorry, disgusting ass to the wood shed and teach you a few lessons in human decency, and respect of others. Then again, from everything I have seen of you in your disgusting videos and read about you? YOU have no soul, you are nothing. YOU are a brain-dead, scumbag, who should have done to YOU exactly what YOU want to do to others.
  2. YOU are no better than ISIS or the Muslim Taliban. YOU seek to force YOUR disgusting, degenerate, psychotic, bullshit religion upon the rest of us. Well get this straight in your brain-dead mind. I am an Atheist. I slam Christianity. I will NEVER back down from exposing your brutal, evil, blood-thirsty, hate-filled, bigoted, hypocritical religion for what it is. YOU think YOU have a right to kill me for it? Here is a challenge for YOUR disgusting, sorry ass. Meet me somewhere. I will pick the place. But let’s see if YOU got the balls to put your fucking money where your mouth is you pencil neck geek wanna be tough guy. Meet me where I chose. I will pick a nice, private place. Then let’s see if YOU got the balls to do to me what you want to do to people like me. But be forwarned you low life piece of shit. YOU had better have your will written out, your life insurance paid off and kissed goodbye to your inbred, outhouse dwelling scumbag loved ones….because the next time they would see your sorry ass? I would send you back home to them, gift wrapped, in a fucking body bag, with your useless head ripped off and shoved up your disgusting ass.

NOW THEODORE SHOEBAT, YOU DISGUSTING TROGLODYTE CHRISTO-FASCIST, YOU GOT THE GUTS TO PUT YOUR FUCKING MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS? YOU THREATENED ME BY YOUR POSTINGS, YOU THREATENED MY GAY AND LESBIAN FRIENDS BY YOUR POSTINGS. YOU HIDE YOUR SHIT BEHIND YOUR PSYCHOTIC RELIGION TO PROTECT YOUR HATE SPEECH? THEN I NOW PROCLAIM I DO THIS IN MY OWN RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY, THAT OF HUMANISM AND THE DEFENSE OF OTHER HUMAN LIFE AGAINST SCUMBAG PSYCHOTIC, CHRISTOFASCISTS LIKE YOU. SO NOW THAT I AM PROTECTED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM BY PROCLAIMING A RELIGION, THAT IS RECOGNIZED….MOTHER-FUCKER….BRING IT THE FUCK ON. I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF SHITSTAINS LIKE YOU. RUNNING YOUR DAMN MOUTH LIKE YOU DO. SEE I USED TO BE A CHRISTIAN, BUT PSYCHOPATHS AND SCUMBAGS, AND RAPIST PRIESTS, AND RAPIST MINISTERS, PREACHERS AND PASTORS, AND MURDEROUS DISGUSTING SCUM LEADERS OF YOUR CULT OF HORROR, DEATH, AND MURDER DROVE ME FROM IT. BUT I KNOW YOUR BUYBULL MUCH BETTER THAN YOU EVER CAN THINK OF. YOU WANT TO CHERRY-PICK BUYBULL VERSES? YOU USED LEVITICUS? OK, NOW I DO THE SAME YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG.

1. I SEE IN YOUR VIDEOS THAT YOU ARE WEARING CLOTHES OF MIXED FABRICS. FOR THAT YOU SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH AS THE BUYBULL COMMANDS FOR YOU ARE AN ABOMINATION.

2. YOU HAVE TRIMMED THE EDGES OF YOUR BEARD…THAT IS AN ABOMINATION THAT YOU SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH FOR.

3. ONE OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS STATE, YOU SHALL DO NO MURDER. YOU ARE ADVOCATING MURDER. THEREFORE, YOU SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH FOR YOUR AVOCATION OF MURDER.

4. YOUR JEEBUS SAID THAT YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOUR GAWD, WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART, SOUL AND MIND AND AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF. HE MADE NO DAMN EXCEPTIONS, HE ALSO STATED THAT UNLESS YOU ARE WITHOUT SIN, THAT IS ONLY WHEN YOU CAN CAST THE FIRST STONE. WELL YOU SPEW HATRED, BIGOTRY AND EVIL, YOU SPEW MURDER, YOU SPEW BUTCHERY, QUITE THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOUR SUPPOSED LORD AND SAVIOR PROCLAIMED YOU TO DO. SO BITCH BOI…YOU THINK YOU ARE JESUS CHRIST? YOU THINK YOU ARE GAWD? YOU THINK YOU CAN TAKE THEIR PLACE AND JUDGE OTHERS? JUDGE OTHERS WORTHY OF DEATH? OK ASSHOLE…WHAT YOU HAVE SOWN, YOU SHALL NOW REAP.

IN CONCLUSION THEODORE SHOEBAT…..YOU SAID YOU WANT TO MURDER PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF. THOSE WHO DARE EXPOSE AND STAND UP TO YOUR PSYCHOTIC RELIGION. YOU SAID YOU WANT TO MURDER PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, WHO STAND UP FOR THE RIGHTS OF GAYS AND LESBIANS? I SAY YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT PUNK, BRING IT THE FUCK ON. CONTACT ME SO WE CAN MEET….BUT REALIZE, IF YOU GOT IT IN YOU, AND I SERIOUSLY DOUBT YOU DO….I WILL IN FACT, PUT YOUR SORRY FUCKING FREAK ASS INTO YOUR GRAVE.

 

 

 

 

Christo-Fascist Pastor of Hate Scott Lively on Trial for Crimes Against Humanity

Christo-Fascist Pastor of Hate Scott Lively is currently on trial for Crimes Against Humanity in relation to the infamous Ugandan Kill the Gays bill.
Christo-Fascist Pastor of Hate Scott Lively is currently on trial for Crimes Against Humanity in relation to the infamous Ugandan Kill the Gays bill.

In late February, when Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni signed the nation’s harsh new anti-gay bill into law, he claimed he measure had been “provoked by arrogant and careless western groups that are fond of coming into our schools and recruiting young children into homosexuality.” What he failed to mention is that the legislation—which makes homosexuality a crime punishable by life in prison in some cases—was itself largely due to Western interlopers, chief among them a radical American pastor named Scott Lively.

Lively, a 56-year-old Massachusetts native, specializes in stirring up anti-gay feeling around the globe. In Uganda, which he first visited in 2002, he has cultivated ties to influential politicians and religious leaders at the forefront of the nation’s anti-gay crusade. Just before the first draft of Uganda’s anti-gay bill began circulating in April 2009, Lively traveled to Kampala and gave lengthy presentations to members of Uganda’s parliament and cabinet, which laid out the argument that the nation’s president and lawmakers would later use to justify Uganda’s draconian anti-gay crackdown—namely that Western agitators were trying to unravel Uganda’s social fabric by spreading “the disease” of homosexuality to children. “They’re looking for other people to be able to prey upon,” Lively said, according to video footage. “When they see a child that’s from a broken home it’s like they have a flashing neon sign over their head.”

Lively is not the only US evangelical who has fanned the flames of anti-gay sentiment in Uganda. As they lose ground at home, where public opinion and law are rapidly shifting in favor of gay equality, religious conservatives have increasingly turned their attention to Africa. And Uganda, with its large Christian population, has been particularly fertile ground for their crusade. Journalist (and past Mother Jones contributor) Jeff Sharlet has reported at length on the Family, a politically connected US-based ministry, which promotes hard-line social policies in the East African nation.

But, according to Ugandan gay rights activists, Lively has played an unparalleled role in fostering the climate of hate that gave rise to Uganda’s anti-gay law. “The bill is essentially his creation,” says Frank Mugisha, director of Sexual Minorities Uganda, a coalition of gay rights organizations. Mugisha’s group has filed a first-of-its-kind lawsuit in US federal court, accusing Lively of international crimes against humanity on the grounds that he and his Ugandan allies allegedly conspired to deprive gay Ugandans of basic human rights.

Lively, who is currently running for governor of Massachusetts as an independent, calls the allegations “ridiculous.” “Basically, a Marxist law firm in New York City is trying to shut me up because I speak very articulately about the pro-family issues,” he says. But video obtained by Mother Jones—including footage of Lively’s 2009 presentation and a little-known follow-up meeting where influential Ugandans resolved to petition parliament for a harsh new law against homosexuality—lends credence to the allegations that Lively’s fierce message paved the way for the nation’s anti-gay crackdown.

Lively has an unusual history for a family-values crusader. A former alcoholic, he spent his late teens and 20s drifting around the country, occasionally sleeping under bridges and begging for spare change. After finding God in a Portland, Oregon, treatment center in the mid-1980s, he joined a conservative evangelical church and took a job as communications director for the Oregon Citizens Alliance, which was loosely affiliated with the then powerful Christian Coalition and was deploying radical tactics to fight abortion and the gay rights movement. In 1992, OCA introduced a ballot initiative with the first faint outlines of the legislative strategy Lively would later deploy abroad. Measure 9, as it was known, barred the state government from offering any “special rights” to gays or “promoting” homosexuality. It also required public schools to treat “homosexuality, pedophilia, sadism” as “abnormal, wrong, unnatural, and perverse.”

The backlash was fierce. Opponents likened Lively and his colleagues to Nazis and lobbed bricks wrapped in swastika flags through the windows of businesses supporting the measure. OCA’s aggressive campaign, likening gays to pedophiles, was also blamed for a steep uptick in gay hate crimes. In the end, Measure 9 was defeated by a 13-point margin. Undeterred, OCA began promoting measures barring special protections for homosexuals on the city and county levels. Lively, who bristled at the Nazi comparisons, also threw himself into studying the Third Reich and eventually grew convinced that gay men—some of whom occupied senior posts in the Nazi regime—were the driving force behind the Holocaust. “Everything that we think about when we think about Nazis actually comes from the minds and perverted ideas of homosexuals,” he told an Oregon public access television station in 1994. OCA also began deploying messages reminiscent of Nazi propaganda. One OCA-published cartoon resembled the infamous Nazi caricature showing a Jew manipulating the strings of government and economy. As Deborah Geis and ‎Steven Kruger observed in their 1997 book Approaching the Millennium, the group had merely replaced “the stooped, hooked-nose puppeteer with a fresh-faced gym boy.”

These tactics paid off: OCA managed to push through more than two dozen county and municipal ordinances. While the Oregon Legislature later rendered them unenforceable, OCA’s efforts kept the issue on the conservative agenda and showed the grassroots appeal of the group’s message. In 1994, the organization sponsored another statewide ballot initiative similar to Measure 9. It was defeated, too, but only by a 3-point margin.

After his bare-knuckled legislative battles in Oregon, Lively retreated to California, where he earned a law degree and a Ph.D. in theology. He also became a prolific author. In 1995, he coauthored what would become his signature book, The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party. It argued that gay elements in the Nazi regime tried to wipe out the Jews because their religion condemned homosexuality. And it claimed that gays intentionally spread immorality and corruption so others were “less likely to oppose homosexuality on moral grounds.” Pornography, according to this theory, is a “tool of ‘gay’ social engineering.” The rising rates of divorce, substance abuse, disease, and violent crime, are all a “direct consequence of embracing the ‘gay’ ethic.” In subsequent books, Lively laid out detailed tactics for battling this menace—including stressing the supposed danger homosexuality poses to young people. “Public sympathy for ‘gays’ as victims is not grounded in logic, but in emotion,” he wrote. “An effective strategy is to emphasize the issue of homosexual recruitment of children…”

Lively’s ideas have proven too radical for the mainstream family values movement, but they’ve gotten some traction on the far right. Bryan Fischer, director of issues analysis for the influential American Family Association, regularly parrots his arguments linking gays to Nazis. (“Homosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler,” he opined in a 2010 post on the organization’s website, “and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and six million dead Jews.”) Lively’s theories have also gained currency in foreign countries, including former Soviet republics, where he has helped advance anti-gay legislation. But nowhere has his influence been more keenly felt than in Uganda. During his first visit there in 2002, he spoke at an anti-pornography conference and warned participants that Western cultural Marxists, backed by liberals (such as George Soros), were trying to erode Uganda’s independence by attacking family values—a message that played on lingering colonial-era resentments. One of their core tactics, Lively argued, was deploying homosexuals to infiltrate Ugandan society. “The cultural Marxists go into these countries, they buy media and they set up these street activist organizations to recruit,” Lively tells me. “I said, ‘Okay, this is what’s going on here. The way to respond to that is to focus on affirming family values—and discouraging the alternatives.'” Lively, who was used to being heckled, was stunned by the positive reception he received at the gathering.

“Public sympathy for ‘gays’ as victims is not grounded in logic, but in emotion,” Lively wrote. “An effective strategy is to emphasize the issue of homosexual recruitment of children…”

Later the same year, an influential Ugandan Assemblies of God pastor named Stephen Langa invited Lively and his wife, Anne, back to Kampala for a barnstorming tour. Lively met with lawmakers, lectured at universities, and gave a number of media interviews. He and Langa also hosted an all-day conference with local pastors. The event was closed to the media and the public, but Lively later recalled that the pastors who attended were “very grateful” for his insights “about the way in which America was brought low by homosexual activism.”

Following the trip, Lively kept in contact with Langa, whom he calls his “ministry partner,” and another influential Ugandan pastor named Martin Ssempa. Both men would ultimately be at the vanguard of Uganda’s anti-gay crackdown.

In early March 2009, Lively returned to Uganda at Langa’s invitation. Uganda’s High Court had recently found that the government overstepped its authority by detaining two gay activists simply because they were gay. In response, a Langa-run group called the Family Life Network planned a three-day conference to expose what he called the “hidden and dark” gay agenda. On the last day, Lively gave a marathon five-hour presentation, which was broadcast on Ugandan television. He claimed that homosexuals were aggressively recruiting Uganda’s children and argued that human rights protections shouldn’t be extended to these “predatory” figures.

Lively also told attendees—among them Ugandan cabinet members—that the gay movement was an “evil institution” that sought to “defeat the marriage-based society” and crush anyone who stood up to its nefarious agenda. At one point, he scrawled “Causes and Types of Homosexual Dysfunction” across the top of a white board and, beneath this, drew a continuum with what he claimed were the various types of gay men. On one extreme sat the transsexuals and transvestites; on the other were what Lively called the “super machos” and “monsters.” “The Nazis were super machos,” he said. “You also see them in prisons…brutish, brutish, animalistic, men that want to hurt other people…men having sex with boys and other men, usually in some sort of aggressive way.”

Moving on to “the monsters,” Lively continued, “They are so far from normalcy that they’re killers. They’re serial killers, mass murderers. They’re sociopaths. There’s no mercy at all, there’s no nurturing, no caring about anybody else…This is the kind of person it takes to run a gas chamber. ” He added that the genocide in neighboring Rwanda “probably involved these guys.”

Lively also likened homosexuality to a disease, and suggested that if Uganda didn’t “actively discourage” same-sex relations, the nation’s children might soon be throwing orgies and performing oral sex on school buses. “That’s what happens when the immune system becomes overwhelmed. The body begins to suffer, disintegrate,” he said. “We need public policy that discourages homosexuality.”

According to Kapya Kaoma, an Anglican priest from Zambia who attended the conference as part of an investigation for the liberal think tank Political Research Associates, Lively’s remarks landed like a bombshell. “These people had never heard of anything called the gay agenda,” he recalls. “But Lively told them that these predators were coming for their children. As Africans hearing it for the first time, they believed it was true—and they were burning with rage.”

During his Ugandan trip, Lively also addressed more than 50 members of parliament. The following week, Langa’s Family Life Network convened a follow-up seminar. As attendees filtered into the meeting room, they passed a table stacked with Lively’s writings and DVDs of his conference speech. The purpose of the gathering, the moderator explained, was to review the lessons from the conference and “come up with a way forward.” He asked attendees to share their recollections from the previous week’s event. A stocky young man in a purple Oxford stood up. “The man of God told us about the origin of all this,” he recalled, according to video footage provided by Political Research Associates. “He said there is a movement that is behind the promotion of homosexuality, and it’s called ‘gay movement.’ He told us it is more serious than we have ever thought. For me, I have never heard of that. But then I got to know that there is a force behind homosexuality that we need to attack also with force.” This was followed by a flurry of incendiary claims, many of them inspired by Lively’s speech.

By the time Langa took the stage, about an hour into the proceedings, the crowd was in a frenzy. The Ugandan pastor held up a copy of The Pink Swastika, and rehashed Lively’s inflammatory theories. In a crude variation on Lively’s take on the history of the gay movement, he claimed the first gay-rights organization in the United States was founded by German-American soldier named Henry Gerber, who had been stationed in pre-Nazi Germany and later became a child molester. (In reality, there is no evidence that Gerber had inappropriate relations with children).

Langa’s speech only fed the public’s rage, and audience members rose to their feet to demand government action. Eventually, the director of research for Uganda’s parliament, Charles Tuhaise, took the floor. He argued that the problem was the nation’s colonial-era anti-homosexuality laws, which made it difficult to punish gay activists. “It does not define its terms. It is totally vague and ineffective,” he explained. Tuhaise opined that parliament needed to “draft a new law that comprehensively deals with this issue—the gay agenda as we have seen it.”

Shortly after the meeting, attendees marched down to parliament and petitioned lawmakers to stiffen punishment for homosexuality. By late April 2009, the first draft of Uganda’s anti-gay bill, authored partly by longtime Lively associate Martin Ssempa, was circulating. Its preamble echoed Lively’s arguments about the threats gays supposedly pose to society. (“Research indicates that homosexuality has a variety of negative consequences including higher incidences of violence, sexually transmitted diseases, and use of drugs…”) The bill made homosexuality punishable by life in prison, and it created a new category of offense, “aggravated homosexuality,” for repeat offenses or cases when one partner is underage or HIV positive. This was punishable by death.

Lively claims that he never called for such harsh punishments. When Ssempa consulted him on an early draft of the legislation, he says he suggested softening the penalties and adding a provision to encourage “rehabilitation.” But by this time, the animosity he helped plant had apparently taken on a life of its own. According to correspondence that Lively reprinted on his website, the Ugandan parliament rebuffed his suggestions, based largely on his own arguments about the dangers of homosexuality. “I admire the courage of my friend Dr. Lively, because he has stood up to homosexual intimidation for so long as a lone voice,” Tuhaise, the Ugandan parliament’s research director, wrote in a letter to Ssempa. But, he argued, Uganda needed the harshest possible deterrents to prevent Western gay activists from indoctrinating children and dominating the “whole culture.”

While Uganda’s parliament ultimately stripped out the death penalty, it also added harsh new provisions. Under the version of the bill that would eventually be signed into law, even touching someone of the same sex with romantic intent was a crime punishable by life in prison in certain cases. Renting a room to a homosexual or “aiding and abetting” him in any form could land a person in prison for seven years. Some US religious conservatives, including Lou Engle of The Call, initially appeared to laud the legislation. But most reversed course and came out against it after the deafening international outcry. Lively continued to voice tepid support. When asked by a reporter in 2010 if he would support the bill minus the death penalty, he replied: “I would not have written the bill this way. But what it comes down to is a question of lesser of two evils…I think the lesser of two evils is for the bill to go through.”

As the bill inched toward passage, the situation for gay Ugandans deteriorated. Newspapers printed the names, addresses, and photos of suspected homosexuals, triggering a wave of vigilante violence. In January 2011, Sexual Minorities Uganda’s founder David Kato was beaten to death with a hammer, after his picture was splashed across the front of a Kampala tabloid, under the headline “Hang Them.” The group issued a statement blaming the murder on “hatred planted in Uganda by U.S. evangelicals in 2009.” Lively has dismissed these allegations and offered his own theory about the motive behind the murder, namely that Kato “was killed by a ‘gay’ lover, as was the case with another homosexual activist…Carlos Castro was castrated with a corkscrew by his boyfriend and bled to death in his hotel room.”

A similar pattern has played out in other countries where Lively has promoted anti-gay legislation. In 2006, he teamed up with a politically connected Latvian pastor, Alexey Ledyaev, to form an international anti-gay organization called Watchmen on the Walls, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has dubbed a hate group. (For more on Watchmen, see Box Turtle Bulletin). That summer, Lively traveled to Latvia, where he lectured at universities, met with lawmakers, and preached at Ledyaev’s New Generation church. As in Uganda, Lively claimed that Western activists—in this case backed by the European Union—were trying to infiltrate Latvian society and spread homosexuality, especially to children. In one case, he went as far as claiming that the gay rights movement was actually seeking the right “for adult men to have sex with boys.”

During his visit, Latvia’s First Party, which has deep ties to Ladyaev’s church, introduced legislation barring “homosexual propaganda.” (The bill initially failed, but it was recently reintroduced). That same summer, Latvia’s lone gay rights group, Mozaika, held the nation’s second gay-pride gathering. Hundreds of protestors—many of them wearing T-shirts from a New Generation spin-off called “No Pride”—turned out to heckle them and pelt them with eggs and feces.

After Latvia, Lively embarked on a 50-city tour of Russia and former Soviet republics, sponsored by Ledyaev’s church, which had roughly 200 congregations and a regional TV channel. As Lively wound his way from the Baltics to Siberia, he pressed officials to outlaw the “public advocacy of homosexuality” and agitated against anti-discrimination laws.

Eight of the nine countries he visited eventually weighed nationwide bans on “homosexual propaganda,” and five—including Russia—either have bills pending or have passed them into law. Lively takes partial credit for this development and calls Russia’s controversial gay propaganda ban his “proudest accomplishment.” Some mainstream family values organizations active in the region accuse Lively of exaggerating his clout. “The influence of Scott Lively in the Russian debate is a creation of his own imagination,” Allan Carlson, president of the World Congress of Families, barked when an activist asked him about Lively during a Capitol Hill press conference last fall. (For more on the World Congress of Families, see “How US Evangelicals Helped Create Russia’s Anti-Gay Movement.”)

But activists in several Eastern European countries that Lively visited say his influence has been considerable. “To this day, Latvian politicians are using his arguments about the secret gay agenda to homosexualize society and steal the children,” says Mozaika’s executive director, Kaspars Zalitis. “Most Latvians condemn homosexuality. We believe Lively and Ledyaev are one of the main reasons for this. Every gay person in the country knows Ledyaev’s rhetoric, which he borrowed from his American friend.”

As his inflammatory ideas bear fruit abroad, Lively has renewed his attention to the home front, where he’s campaigning for governor of Massachusetts. He admits that it would “take a miracle from God” to land him in the governor’s mansion. “My purpose really is just to have a platform to articulate my views so people can hear them,” he explains. Lively has also partnered with another radical anti-gay crusader, Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, to create a new group called the Coalition for Family Values, which will work with organizations around the globe to push a hard-line anti-gay agenda. So far, Lively says, more than 75 organizations have signed on, including a few US heavyweights, such as the American Family Association.

At a press conference announcing the group’s formation late last month, Lively praised Russia for “providing much-needed leadership in restoring family values.” When a young gay Russian man, who wore as “Lively is Deadly” button, stood up to protest, Lively drowned him out. “Every time the pro-family people come forward to speak the truth from our perspective, we are interrupted by homo fascists,” he seethed, before summoning security to drag the protestor away.

The following week, Uganda’s president signed the nation’s draconian anti-gay bill into law, and the popular Ugandan tabloid Red Pepper printed names, photographs, and home addresses of 200 alleged homosexuals, touching off a new wave of anti-gay vigilantism. Ugandan gay activists say attacks and harassment​ are becoming commonplace, with religious leaders in the Kampala suburbs calling for gays to be burned and beaten over public address systems. But Lively remains unrepentant. “The gay movement has really brought this on themselves,” he told NPR during a recent interview. “You know, white male homosexuals from the United States and Europe going into these African countries because the age of consent laws are low and able to take these, you know, young, teenage boys and turn them into rent boys for the price of a bicycle…When you’re taking these boys and messing with them in a culture like Uganda…they’re just asking for trouble.”

THIS STORY CAME FROM THE FOLLOWING LINK: Meet the American Pastor Behind Uganda’s Anti-Gay Crackdown



Christo-Fascist Pastor of Hate Scott Lively’s trial on Crimes Against Humanity

Sexual Minorities Uganda v. Scott Lively

SMUG v. Lively is a federal lawsuit on behalf of a non-profit umbrella organization for LGBTI advocacy groups in Uganda against Scott Lively, a U.S.-based anti-gay extremist, for his role in the persecution of LGBTI people in Uganda, in particular his active participation in the conspiracy to strip away their fundamental rights. The case is part of CCR’s cutting edge international human rights work and groundbreaking efforts to protect and expand rights under the area of law related to the Alien Tort Statute (ATS) and continues CCR’s historic early work defending LGBTI rights.

CCR works closely with our allies at SMUG to support their work and hold U.S.-based anti-gay activists like Lively accountable.

This is the first ATS case seeking accountability for persecution on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity as a crime against humanity. The United States Supreme Court has affirmed the use of the ATS as a remedy for serious violations of international law that are widely accepted and clearly defined. Persecution is defined in international law as the “intentional and severe deprivation of fundamental rights contrary to international law by reason of the identity of the group or collectivity.” Lively – a U.S.-based attorney, author, and self-described world-leading expert on the “gay movement” – has traveled to Uganda and other countries, including Russia, and played a key role in the effort to strip LGBTI people of fundamental rights, including the rights to free expression, association, and assembly.

Case Timeline

March 14, 2012: SMUG files case against Scott Lively. Filed in the Springfield Division of the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts, the complaint alleges that Lively’s involvement in anti-gay efforts in Uganda, including his active participation in the conspiracy to strip away fundamental rights from LGBTI persons, constitutes persecution. This is the first known Alien Tort Statute (ATS) suit seeking accountability for persecution on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.

May 2012: Parties file briefs on Lively’s motion to stay case pending SCOTUS decision in Kiobel. Represented by Liberty Counsel, Lively files a motion to stay the case pending the outcome of the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Kiobel v. Royal Dutch Shell, a case also brought under the ATS. SMUG files its opposition to the motion, and the court subsequently denies Lively’s motion to stay the case on June 1, 2012, ordering him to answer or otherwise respond to the complaint.
January 7, 2013: Court hears arguments on Lively’s motion to dismiss. Supporters and allies pack the court for oral argument on Lively’s motion to dismiss the case. Lively’s attorneys argue that his activity in Uganda is protected under the First Amendment. Pamela Spees of CCR argues that Lively’s conduct went well beyond the exercise of his First Amendment rights when he began to work to criminalize organizations like SMUG and to remove fundamental civil rights from LGBTI people, including their right to free speech and assembly.

A delegation of Ugandan LGBTI activists attends the hearing alongside Stop the Hate and Homophobia Coalition of Western Massachusetts, who organize a rally in front of the courthouse.

April 2013: Lively files notice of supplemental authority in support of his motion to dismiss; in turn, SMUG files response to defendant’s notice regarding Kiobel.

DEFENDANT’S NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY REQUIRING DISMISSAL OF PLAINTIFF’S FEDERAL LAW CLAIMS

PLAINTIFF’S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT’S “ NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY REQUIRING DISMISSAL OF PLAINTIFF’S FEDERAL LAW CLAIMS”

August 14, 2013: Court denies Lively’s motion to dismiss. The court issues a memorandum and order denying the defendant’s motion to dismiss and referring the case for pre-trial scheduling. In a historic decision, the judge rules that persecution on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity is a crime against humanity and that the fundamental human rights of LGBTI people are protected under international law.

MEMORANDUM AND ORDER REGARDING DEFENDANT’S MOTIONS TO DISMISS

Fall 2013: Lively files series of motions seeking leave to file appeal of order denying his motion to dismiss. On September 6, 2013, Lively’s attorneys move to have the District Court certify an interlocutory appeal of its order on the motion to dismiss. The District Court denies his motion for certification, noting that an interim appeal would be improper given the need for discovery and the lack of a substantial question of law that would justify review before the appellate court. Lively files another motion, asking the District Court to reconsider its order denying certification for an interlocutory appeal. The judge promptly denies Lively’s motion for reconsideration, ruling in favor of SMUG. The parties subsequently appear before the District Court for a scheduling conference, on November 6, 2013, to set the timeline for the pre-trial phase of the case.

MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT SCOTT LIVELY’S M OTION TO AMEND AND CERTIFY NON – FINAL ORDER FOR INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL

PLAINTIFF’S MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO AMEND AND CERTIFY NON – FINAL ORDER FOR INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL

MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT SCOTT LIVELY’S M OTION TO RECONSIDER ORDER DENYING CERTIFICATION FOR INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL

PLAINTIFF’S MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO RECONSIDER ORDER DENYING CERTIFICATION FOR INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL

November 20, 2013: Lively files his answer to SMUG’s complaint. Per the court’s scheduling order, Lively files his responses to the allegations in SMUG’s complaint.

DEFENDANT SCOTT LIVELY’S ANSWER AND DEFENSES TO PLAINTIFF’S FIRST AMENDED COMPLAINT

December 5, 2013: Lively files petition for writ of mandamus. On December 5, 2013, Lively files a petition requesting that the First Circuit Court of Appeals issue a writ of mandamus, a type of relief granted only in extraordinary circumstances, directing the District Court to vacate its order denying Lively’s motion to dismiss. The next day, his legal team also file a motion with the District Court to stay the case, pending the First Circuit’s review of the writ petition. The District Court denies the defendant’s motion for a stay, allowing the discovery phase to proceed. Almost a year later, on December 4, 2014, the First Circuit issues a judgment denying Lively’s petition for a writ.

April 9, 2015: Sexual Minorities Uganda files motion asking court to subpoena Martin Ssempa.

PLAINTIFF’S MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION FOR ISSUANCE OF A SUBPOENA PURSUA NT TO 28 U.S.C. SECTION 1783( a )

THE ABOVE INFORMATION WAS OBTAINED THROUGH THE FOLLOWING WEBSITE LINK:
Sexual Minorities Uganda v. Scott Lively by the Center for Constitutional Rights

UPDATE ON CASE:

June 16, 2015: Lawyers in the federal “crimes against humanity” lawsuit against anti-homosexuality pastor Scott Lively continue to wrangle over which information should be made public in the case, and how public that information should be.

Attorney Roger Gannam on Tuesday argued that lawyers for the plaintiffs were being so surreptitious in turning over documents – already subject to an “attorney’s eyes only” restriction – that it was hindering Lively’s ability to wage an effective defense.

“Scott Lively has no desire for the information except for this lawsuit,” Gannam argued to U.S. Magistrate Judge Katherine Robertson. “SMUG has not proved that it’s reliable in deciding what Scott Lively should see and shouldn’t see.”

In particular, the lawyer cited an email relating to a SMUG fund-raiser geared toward paying fees in the Lively case, which he said was so heavily redacted even the subject line was blacked out. Gannam also referred to images the plaintiffs have withheld of participants at the 2009 workshop in Uganda, which he argued Lively couldn’t confirm were there if he can’t see their faces.

Gannam also suggested the plaintiffs’ representation of the significance of the 2009 workshop in Uganda was overstated.

“It has been suggested that the number of (anti-gay) participants at this conference that captivated an entire country was seven, and as many as 30 were SMUG agents who attended just to figure out what was going on,” Gannam argued.

However the plaintiffs have argued that Lively’s evangelism served to stir up an already politically vulnerable country with conservative views on sexuality. SMUG argues the workshops prompted openly gay Ugandans to go into hiding lest they risk being murdered or jailed. The penalty for homosexual acts in Uganda is life imprisonment.

Jeena Shaw, a lawyer for the plaintiff’s on Tuesday argued that certain documents could not be turned over to Lively’s defense team because he may use them to imperil SMUG’s security measures and its allies who have not yet been “outed.”

“He could learn where members choose to meet, how they choose to communicate, – how they travel or hide (in and out of the country),” Shaw told Robertson. “Mr. Lively could further refine (anti-gay) legislation or other modes of attack,” Shaw said.

Gannam said Lively has no such plans and has complied with the protective order already in place in the case.

Lawyers also sparred about how and whether SMUG board member Sam Ganafa should be compelled to appear for a deposition in the case.

The plaintiff’s argue that Ganafa only has tangential knowledge of the events in the case, and has already been subjected to public harassment in Uganda.

Ganafa was privy only to two events of the “outing” of gays in that country, first in 2013 by the Ugandan tabloid “Red Pepper,” which ran a headline that read: “BUSTED -HOW GAYS OPERATE IN UGANDA,” according to court filings. The article caused a sister agency called “Spectrum” to pack up and move its offices out of fear for its staff’s safety.

A second article ran the day after the “Anti-Homosexuality Act” was passed in Uganda on Feb. 25, 2014 with a headline that read: “EXPOSED! Uganda’s 200 Top Homos Named,” court records state. The second article featured a front page photo of Ganafa, according to the plaintiffs.

UPDATE ON CASE COMES FROM THIS LINK:
Scott Lively lawyers in ‘crimes against humanity’ case want more information from plaintiffs



HOPEFULLY CHRISTO-FASCIST PASTOR OF HATE SCOTT LIVELY WILL GET WHAT IS COMING TO HIM.

Christo-Fascist Psychotic Matt McLaughlin and his Sodomite Suppression Act ballot initiative

ChristoFascist Matt McLaughlinChristo-Fascist Psychotic Matt McLaughlin and his Sodomite Suppression Act ballot initiative

Matthew Gregory McLaughlin, an Orange County attorney, filed the so-called Sodomite Suppression Act ballot initiative This is a copy of his disgusting act.

SODOMITE SUPPRESSION ACT Penal Code section 39

a) The abominable crime against nature known as buggery, called also sodomy, is a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

b) Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God’s just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.

c) No person shall distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda directly or indirectly by any means to any person under the age of majority. Sodomistic propaganda is defined as anything aimed at creating an interest in or an acceptance of human sexual relations other than between a man and a woman. Every offender shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.

d) No person shall serve in any public office, nor serve in public employment, nor enjoy any public benefit, who is a sodomite or who espouses sodomistic propaganda or who belongs to any group that does.

e) This law is effective immediately and shall not be rendered ineffective nor invalidated by any court, state or federal, until heard by a quorum of the Supreme Court of California consisting only of judges who are neither sodomites nor subject to disqualification hereunder.

f) The state has an affirmative duty to defend and enforce this law as written, and every member of the public has standing to seek its enforcement and obtain reimbursement for all costs and attorney’s fees in so doing, and further, should the state persist in inaction over 1 year after due notice, the general public is empowered and deputized to execute all the provisions hereunder extra-judicially, immune from any charge and indemnified by the state against any and all liability.

g) This law shall be known as 11The Sodomite Suppression Act” and be numbered as section 39 in Title 3 of the Penal Code, pertaining to offences against the sovereignty of the state. The text shall be prominently posted in every public school classroom. All laws in conflict with this law are to that extent invalid.



CHRISTO-FASCISTS LIKE MATTHEW GREGORY MCLAUGHLIN SHOULD, AS THE BUYBULL COMMANDS, HAVE DONE UNTO HIM AS HE WISHES TO DO UNTO OTHERS.

I hear Christo-Fascists like his sorry ass all the time, screaming how they are oh so persecuted for their religious based, cherry-picking buybull verse, bigoted, scumbag hypocrites they are when we get into their faces. It seems that many of these ChristoFascists can spew all kinds of murderous evil from their well used outhouse pie-holes and damn anyone who dares stands up to them. Douchebags like McLaughlin can scream, foaming at the mouth, that because they are Christians, they should have the right to brutally murder anyone they wish, when they cherry-pick buybul verses. Far too many ChristoFascists like McLaughlin are out there and they think they have a special privilege they can hide behind, the First Amendment, to get away with their ideology of murdering others, especially gays, lesbians and anyone who dares to stand up and defend them and their rights.

If I were to stand on the street corner, demanding that we have a right to walk up to someone we do not like and blow their heads off, or put them into Nazi concentration camps, or lynch or stone them, or murder them in other ways, I would be arrested for the very least on charges of criminal threatening. But again, scumbags like McLaughlin seems to be able to get away with their shit because hey….he proclaims he is a Christian.

Yet, they forget the biggest commandment their Lord and Savior they proclaim to follow. That they should love their neighbor, like their God, with all of their hearts, souls and minds and like they love themselves. Their Jesus also said that many shall call themselves by his name, but their hearts and minds are far from his teachings. The bible also states, in the Ten Commandments, that thou shall do no murder, but it seems that Matthew Gregory McLaughlin, passed by many of those verses

Christo-Fascist buybull thumpers like McLaughlin also seem to forget all the other abominations listed in their buybulls that would in fact, condemn them to death. Such things as wearing clothes of mixed fabrics, or eating the meat of a pig, or fish from the sea or lakes without scales or fins, or trimming the edges of their beards, and about 304 more abominations listed. Of course that would mean they would have to see a lot of their Christian buddies dragged out of their homes and places of business and executed.

ChristoFascists like Matthew Gregory McLaughlin and others like him? Who spew such evil from their outhouse pie-holes? Should have done exactly to them, what they want to do unto others. Of course they would claim I am now persecuting them by saying this….but that would just be typical of their disgusting hypocrisy, for if they feel they have a right, under their Christian religion, to demand that gays and lesbians should have their heads blown off on a street corner, and that those who support and defend their rights should be put into prison and face a million dollar fine and not have the right to be a U.S. citizen because they do support and defend the rights of gays and lesbians…..then McLaughlin and other scum Christo-Fascists like him, would be the persecutors crying their eyes out about how they are oh so persecuted….but I say it is truly time…..to persecute the persecutors and give them a dose of their own medicine.

Christo-Fascist Kim Davis

CHRISTO-FASCIST, CHERRY-PICKING BUYBULL THUMPER, ADULTERER, AND OVERALL HYPOCRITE CHRISTIANIST, KIM DAVIS
CHRISTO-FASCIST, CHERRY-PICKING BUYBULL THUMPER, ADULTERER, AND OVERALL HYPOCRITE CHRISTIANIST, KIM DAVIS

KIM DAVIS, WHAT CAN YOU REALLY SAY ABOUT THIS CHRISTO-FASCIST, CHERRY-PICKING BUYBULL THUMPER, ADULTERER AND OVERALL HYPOCRITE CHRISTIANIST? WHY A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT REALLY.

THE CASE OF KIM DAVIS

You just gotta love this freak Christo-Fascist. She claims she is being persecuted because as the County Clerk for Rowan County, Kentucky, for being put into jail for refusing to sign marriage licenses for gay and lesbian couples. She was sentenced to six days in the Carter County Detention Center, by Judge David L. Bunning, of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky, for contempt of court.

The U.S. Supreme Court, ruled on June 26, 2015, in the case of Obergfell vs Hodges 576 U.S. (2015), stating that the fundamental right of same sex couples to marry is protected under the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.  Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear, ordered all county clerks to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, but Davis contacted Beshear, asking for an executive order to protect clerks who have moral objections against personally issuing such marriage licenses,as Kentucky law requires county clerks to issue marriage licenses in their name. She began turning away gay couples from her county office who were there seeking marriage licenses, then began denying marriage licenses to all couples, gay or straight, rather than issue them to same-sex couples.

On July 1, 2015, four couples who were denied a marriage license—two same-sex couples and two opposite-sex couples filed a lawsuit against Kim Davis, represented by the ACLU. The case was heard before Federal District Judge Bunning. Davis, who tearfully argued that issuing licenses under her name violates her beliefs, citing her religious rights under the First Amendment: “It wasn’t just a spur-of-the-moment decision,” she said. “It was thought out, and I sought God on it.”. Davis had already decided against resigning from her post, as doing so, she said, would only leave the matter to her deputies: “If I resign, I solve nothing. It helps nobody.”. Governor Beshear stated he would not call a special session of the General Assembly to address Davis’ concerns, while other state legislators believed that such a session could accommodate Davis with possible new legislation. Davis’ attorneys from the Liberty Council, stated that the plaintiffs were free to drive to other counties to obtain their same-sex marriage licenses, with one adding, “This case is not about these plaintiffs’ desires to get married, the case is about [their] desire to force Kim Davis to approve and authorize their marriage in violation of her constitutionally protected religious beliefs.”. Davis and her attorneys then sued Governor Beshear for ordering her to violate her religious beliefs instead of trying to accommodate them and argued that Beshear – not Davis – should be held accountable for any legal damages from the ACLU lawsuit.

The following month, in August, Judge Bunning issued a stay temporarily barring Davis from “applying her ‘no marriage licenses’ policy to future marriage license requests”. Before the stay expired, the U.S.Court of Appeals for the Sixth District, refused to extend that ruling for an appeal. “It cannot be defensibly argued that the holder of the Rowan County Clerk’s office … may decline to act in conformity with the United States Constitution as interpreted by a dispositive holding of the United States Supreme Court,” the unanimous three-judge panel wrote in their refusal. “There is thus little or no likelihood that the clerk in her official capacity will prevail on appeal,” the panel further said.  Liberty Counsel and Davis filed an emergency application to appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court. In a one-line order, the Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal, preventing Davis from legally continuing to deny marriage licenses to couples. In response to the U.S. Supreme Court’s refusal to grant her stay request, Davis stated: “I never imagined a day like this would come, where I would be asked to violate a central teaching of Scripture and of Jesus Himself regarding marriage. To issue a marriage license which conflicts with God’s definition of marriage, with my name affixed to the certificate, would violate my conscience.”. Davis continued to defy Bunning’s court order after the Supreme Court upheld it. When several couples sought to obtain marriage licenses, Davis turned them away, saying she was acting “under God’s authority”. Some in the media questioned whether Davis, having been married four times, was acting hypocritically in the “application of her beliefs”

Bunning ordered Davis and her six deputy clerks to appear before him on September 3 in Ashland, after the two gay couples and two opposite-sex couples sought to have her held in contempt of court.  The four couples and the ACLU asked the court to fine Davis. Bunning ruled in favor of the plaintiffs and held Davis in contempt, but remanded her to custody after the hearing. The judge said she would remain in jail until she complied with the court’s order to issue marriage licenses. Bunning reportedly said that fines were not an option “because outsiders would pay them for her”. Of the six deputy clerks who report to Davis, only her son Nathan refused to comply with the court’s order to start issuing marriage licenses. After the hearing, she was transported by the U.S. Marshals to the Carter County Detention Center in Grayson. Through her attorneys from Liberty Counsel, Davis filed an appeal from the order holding her in contempt of court, asking that she be immediately released from jail and her name removed from marriage licenses, allowing her deputies to issue them. Separately, Davis asked Governor Beshear to free her. The governor’s office said that the conflict was a “matter between her and the courts” and added that the governor had no power to release her. Rowan County Democratic Judge-Executive Walter Blevins stated that he did not believe he would need to appoint a replacement for Davis, and that he believes “the General Assembly will pass something where marriage licenses don’t have anyone’s name on them. The Attorney General of Kentucky, is saying the same thing.

Five days later on September 8, Bunning ordered Davis released from jail. The order stated:
Defendant Davis shall be released from the custody of the U.S. Marshal forthwith. Defendant Davis shall not interfere in any way, directly or indirectly, with the efforts of her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples. If Defendant Davis should interfere in any way with their issuance, that will be considered a violation of this Order and appropriate sanctions will be considered.

Bunning’s order also stated that Davis’ deputy clerks must comply with his earlier order to issue marriage licenses and to submit status reports confirming their compliance to him every fourteen days. The deputy clerks released statements pledging to continue issuing licenses after Davis’ release and to ignore any order from her to do otherwise, complying with the federal judge’s order. Licenses issued since Davis’ refusal state that they are authorized by “the office of the Rowan County Clerk” but no longer bear her name.  Davis supporters who gathered at the Rowan County Courthouse said that her deputies were unlawfully issuing licenses and should resign or be fired.

Davis returned to work a week later, on September 14, 2015, and said she would not interfere with any deputy clerk who issues marriage licenses, but she said she would not personally issue or authorize any of the forms.The same day, a same sex couple successfully walked out of the Rowan County, Kentucky, clerk’s office with a marriage license. After three trips to Davis’ office by deputy clerk Brian Mason,the license the couple received said “pursuant to federal court order #15-CV-44 DLB” on it and listed the city of Morehead, the county seat, rather than listing Davis’ name and Rowan County. A member of the couple said: “My license is valid, and it’s valid because of the court order that’s in effect … It doesn’t have to have her signature.

Under Kentucky law, a commonwealth attorney, has the power to indict various local officials (including judges-executives, justices of the peace, sheriffs, coroners, surveyors, jailers, county attorneys and constables) for “malfeasance in office or willful neglect in the discharge of official duties” (an offense punishable by removal from office and a fine of up to $1,000), “but for some reason lost to history, the statute doesn’t include county clerks.” Since Davis’ denial of issuing marriage licenses came into the public eye, the question has been posed as to why Davis has not been fired for failure to perform her assigned duties. As an elected official, however, Davis cannot be fired. In order for Davis to be removed from the office of county clerk, impeachment proceedings must be initiated by the Kentucky House of Representatives, and charges for impeachment brought to the Kentucky Senate.

After being denied a license four times, one couple asked the Rowan County Attorney’s Office to investigate Davis for official misconduct, a misdemeanor under Kentucky law.

Rowan County Attorney Cecil Watkins cited a conflict of interest precluding him from making a decision to charge or not to charge in the case (his office is currently defending two suits filed against the county). Because of this, Watkins referred the complaint of official misconduct to the Kentucky Attorney General’s office, led by Attorney General Jack Conway, for them to decide whether to file charges against Davis.

The Kentucky Attorney General has the power to have an assistant attorney general investigate whether Davis violated the official misconduct statute when her office refused to issue a license to the same-sex couple, or to have a county attorney or commonwealth’s attorney from another jurisdiction conduct such an investigation. The Kentucky Attorney General’s office then conducted a review, and Conway issued a statement reading: “I understand that passions are high on both sides of this issue, but we are a nation of laws, and no one can defy an order from a federal judge.”.

On September 9, 2015, Conway issued a one-sentence statement saying that he would not appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Davis: “Judge Bunning and the federal court have control of this matter, and therefore a special state prosecutor is not necessary at this time.” Conway has noted that the statute of limitations on charging Davis does not expire for a year.

THE HYPOCRISY OF KIM DAVIS

Davis has been married four times to three different men.The first three marriages ended in divorce in 1994, 2006, and 2008. She is the mother of twins, who were born five months after her divorce from her first husband. Her third husband is the biological father of the twins, who were adopted by her second husband, Joe Davis, who is also her fourth and current husband; he supports her stance against same-sex marriage.  One of Davis’ twin sons, Nathan, works in her office as a deputy clerk and has taken the same position of denying marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Kim Davis states she is a Christian, yet she is not. She is a Christianist, who is using a religious doctrine to justify her bigotry and hatred against gays and lesbians. Then she cries about herself being persecuted by those who stand up to her and her Christianist based bigotry. Kim Davis is basically a cherry-picking buybull thumper. She has gained notoriety and fame for herself by being the ChristoFascist bigot that she is. Her bible though, is clear on many points, and shows to us all that she is a hypocrite and a true cherry-picking buybull thumper, as are all those who come to her defense and rescue or support her in any way.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT KIM DAVIS AND OTHERS LIKE HER.

There are many verses in the bible that proclaims Kim Davis, not only a hypocrite, but an adulteress, and one, who if we abided by that disgusting, degenerate, evil book, should be dragged to her fathers house and stoned to death by the men of the city. If Kim Davis is going to cherry-pick buybull verses to be a psychotic religious bigot, then the whole bible should be applied to herself and all those who stand up and defends her, and her hypocrisy.

BIBLE VERSES AGAINST ADULTERY AND DIVORCE

  1. In Luke 16:18 Jesus says:
    Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.

Mark 10:2-12: 2 And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” 3 He answered them, “What did Moses command you?” 4 They said, “Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce, and to put her away.” 5 But Jesus said to them, “For your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6 But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. 9 What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.” 10 And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. 11 And he said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; 12 and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”

The bible also states in Leviticus and Deuteronomy what should be done to not only adulterers like Kim Davis, but because she was definitely not a virgin on her second, third or fourth wedding night, this also calls for the same punishment as adulterers.

Leviticus 20:10:If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. 

Deuteronomy 22:20,21:20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: 21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Kim Davis, being divorced three times and re-married four times, is in fact, according to her own bible’s standards an adulteress and a whore. Even though she can proclaim that since she became a “Christian” that all her sins were forgiven her, yet, each night, she sleeps with a man who was not her first husband and that makes her an adulteress each and every time she does so. She also again, was NOT a virgin on her subsequent three wedding nights. So according to her own religion and her own bible, her own God and Jesus Christ, she is a harlot, a whore, an adulteress, who should in fact, be stoned to death.

NOTHING SAYS HYPOCRISY AS CHRISTO-FASCIST, CHERRY-PICKING BUYBULL THUMPER LIKE KIM DAVIS.

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Founding Father Thomas Paine and his words AGAINST Christianity

Founding Father Thomas Paine
Founding Father Thomas Paine

“These are the times that try men’s souls.” This simple quotation from Founding Father Thomas Paine’s The American Crisis not only describes the beginnings of the American Revolution, but also the life of Paine himself. Throughout most of his life, his writings inspired passion, but also brought him great criticism. He communicated the ideas of the Revolution to common farmers as easily as to intellectuals, creating prose that stirred the hearts of the fledgling United States. He had a grand vision for society: he was staunchly anti-slavery, and he was one of the first to advocate a world peace organization and social security for the poor and elderly. But his radical views on religion would destroy his success, and by the end of his life, only a handful of people attended his funeral.

On January 29, 1737, Thomas Paine was born in Thetford, England. His father, a corseter, had grand visions for his son, but by the age of 12, Thomas had failed out of school. The young Paine began apprenticing for his father, but again, he failed. So, now age 19, Paine went to sea. This adventure didn’t last too long, and by 1768 he found himself as an excise (tax) officer in England. Thomas didn’t exactly excel at the role, getting discharged from his post twice in four years, but as an inkling of what was to come, he published The Case of the Officers of Excise (1772), arguing for a pay raise for officers. In 1774, by happenstance, he met Benjamin Franklin in London, who helped him emigrate to Philadelphia.

His career turned to journalism while in Philadelphia, and suddenly, Thomas Paine became very important. In 1776, he published Common Sense, a strong defense of American Independence from England. He traveled with the Continental Army and wasn’t a success as a soldier, but he produced The American Crisis (1776-83), which helped inspire the Army. This pamphlet was so popular that as a percentage of the population, it was read by or read to more people than today watch the Super Bowl.

But, instead of continuing to help the Revolutionary cause, he returned to Europe and pursued other ventures, including working on a smokeless candle and an iron bridge. In 1791-92, he wrote The Rights of Man in response to criticism of the French Revolution. This work caused Paine to be labeled an outlaw in England for his anti-monarchist views. He would have been arrested, but he fled for France to join the National Convention.

By 1793, he was imprisoned in France for not endorsing the execution of Louis XVI. During his imprisonment, he wrote and distributed the first part of what was to become his most famous work at the time, the anti-church text, The Age of Reason (1794-96). He was freed in 1794 (narrowly escaping execution) thanks to the efforts of James Monroe, then U.S. Minister to France. Paine remained in France until 1802 when he returned to America on an invitation from Thomas Jefferson. Paine discovered that his contributions to the American Revolution had been all but eradicated due to his religious views. Derided by the public and abandoned by his friends, he died on June 8, 1809 at the age of 72 in New York City.

Information on Founding Father Thomas Paine was taken from this link: Thomas Paine

Words of Founding Father Thomas Paine AGAINST Christianity:

“Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law. Take away the law-establishment, and every religion re-assumes its original benignity.”-The Rights of Man, 1791

“Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.”

“Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.”

“What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith.”

“We do not admit the authority of the church with respect to its pretended infallibility, its manufactured miracles, its setting itself up to forgive sins. It was by propagating that belief and supporting it with fire that she kept up her temporal power.”

“I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”

“The story of Jesus Christ appearing after he was dead is the story of an apparition, such as timid imaginations can always create in vision, and credulity believe. Stories of this kind had been told of the assassination of Julius Caesar.”

“All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”

“The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion.”

“Take away from Genesis the belief that Moses was the author, on which only the strange belief that it is the word of God has stood, and there remains nothing of Genesis but an anonymous book of stories, fables, and traditionary or invented absurdities, or of downright lies.”

“It is the fable of Jesus Christ, as told in the New Testament, and the wild and visionary doctrine raised thereon, against which I contend. The story, taking it as it is told, is blasphemously obscene.?

“It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving. It consists in professing to believe what one does not believe.” The Age of Reason.

“Independence is my happiness, and I view things as they are, without regard to place or person, my country is the world, and my religion is to do good.” The Rights of Man.

“To argue with a man who has renounced reason is like giving medicine to the dead” The Crisis.

“All national institution of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appears to me no other than human interventions, set up to terrify and enslave most mankind, and monopolize power and profit.” The Age of Reason, Part 1, “The Authors Profession of Faith” 1794.

“Any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system.”

It is from the bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine and murder; for the belief of a cruel god makes a cruel man.”

“There is scarcely any part of science, or anything in nature, which those imposters and blasphemers of science, called priests, as well Christians, as Jews, have not at some time or other, perverted, or sought to pervert to the purpose of superstitions and falsehood.”

“The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing, it is founded on nothing, it rests on nothing; it proceeds by no authority, it has no data, it can demonstrate nothing and admits of no conclusion.”  The Age of Reason.

“Of all the tyrannies that afflicts mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst. Every other species of tyranny is limited to the world we live in, but this attempts a stride beyond grave and  seeks to pursue us into eternity.”

“Everything wonderful in appearance has been ascribed to angels, to devils, or to saints. Everything ancient has some legendary tale annexed to it. The common operations of nature have not escaped their practice of corrupting everything.”

“The Bible: a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.” The Age of Reason.

“The Christian system of religion is an outrage on common sense.”

“Priests and conjurers are of the same trade.” The Age of Reason.

“The story of the redemption will not stand examination. That man should redeem himself from the sin of eating an apple by committing a murder on Jesus Christ, is the strangest system of religion ever set up.”

“The Church was resolved to have a New Testament, and as, after the lapse of more than three hundred years, no handwriting could be proved or disproved, the Church, which like former imposters had then gotten possession of the State, had everything its own way. It invented creeds, such as that called the Apostle’s Creed, the Nicean Creed, the Athnansis Creed, and out of loads of rubbish that were presented it voted four to be the Gospels, and others to be Epistles, as we now have them arranged.”

“Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind, and for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel.” The Age of Reason.

“As to the Christian system of faith, it appears to me as a species of atheism-a sort of religious denial of God It professed to believe in man rather than God. It is as near to atheism as twilight to darkness. It introduces between man and his Maker an opaque body, which is called a Redeemer, as the moon introduces her opaque self between the earth and the sun, and it produces by this means as a religious or irreligious eclipse of the light. It has put the whole orbit of reason into shade.”  The Age of Reason.

“The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion.”

“Yet this is trash that the Church imposes upon the world as the Word of God; this is the collection of lies and contradictions called the Holy Bible! this is the rubbished called Revealed Religion!”

“The New Testament, they tell us, is founded upon the prophecies of the Old;; if so, it must follow the fate of its foundation.”

“We do not admit the authority of the church with respect to its pretended infallibility, its manufactured miracles, its setting itself up to forgive sins. It was by propagating that belief and supporting it with fire that she kept up her temporal power.”

“I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of these churches accuses the other of unbelief, and for my part, I disbelieve them all.”

Many of these quotes were researched and found at the following website links:

Positive Atheism’s Big List of Thomas Paine Quotations

88 Founding Father Quotes That Will Enrage The Religious Right by Tiffany Willis

Our Founding Fathers were NOT Christians

President James Madison words AGAINST Christianity

President James Madison
President James Madison

The fourth President of the United States, James Madison, was much like the other Virginia presidents-Washington and Jefferson-who went before him. Like them, he loved his home state only a little less than his country. Like them, he was a rich man who gave his whole life to public service.  He was an able student of politics and government who brought real knowledge and skills to his job. In public office Madison was a calm, reasoning statesman who governed by force of logic. In a time when emotions ran high, he made common sense prevail. He was not always successful in dealing with foreign nations, but history has shown he had right and justice on his side.He entered the presidency at a time when war clouds hung over the young nation. He saw his country through the disastrous War of 1812, and his final months in office produced the “era of good feeling” that lasted for many years. He did well as Secretary of State and as President, but his greatest record was made earlier. For his outstanding work on the nation’s charter, Madison is known as the Father of the Constitution. Excerpted from Compton’s Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe. Copyright 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997. The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Words of James Madison Against Christianity:

“Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”-Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”-Founding Father James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman,

“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”-letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822.

“Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance.”— letter, 1822.

“It may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of separation between the rights of religion and the Civil authority with such distinctness as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential points. The tendency to unsurpastion on one side or the other, or to a corrupting coalition or alliance between them, will be best guarded agst. by an entire abstinence of the Gov’t from interfence in any way whatsoever, beyond the necessity of preserving public order, and protecting each sect agst. trespasses on its legal rights by others.”-“James Madison on Religious Liberty”, edited by Robert S. Alley, ISBN 0-8975-298-X. pp. 237-238.

“What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not.”— “A Memorial and Remonstrance”, 1785.

“Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”-“A Memorial and Remonstrance”, 1785.

“Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.”-Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical Endowments.

“Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects.”

“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.”— 1803 letter objecting use of gov. land for churches.

I would like to thank the following websites that helped in my research on the true words of the “Founding Fathers” dealing with the topic of Christianity.

James Madison Against Christianity

88 Founding Father Quotes That Will Enrage The Religious Right by Tiffany Willis

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President Thomas Jefferson’s words AGAINST Christianity

Contrary to Christians popular belief, President Thomas Jefferson despised the Christian religion.
Contrary to Christians popular belief, President Thomas Jefferson despised the Christian religion.

Christo-Fascists love to declare how the “Founding Fathers” were all Christians and that the United States was founded on the Christian religion. Nothing could be further than the truth of this. Jefferson was a Deist. He did not believe in the God of the Christians, nor in many of the miracles, fables, and outrageous bs that is in the bible. He even cut out a lot of the bible to come up with his own Jefferson’s bible.

Thomas Jefferson. The third President of the United States. He had been the author of the Declaration of Independence and the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. In the age of great men, Jefferson was remarkable for his wide-range curiosity on many subjects. He helped the United States get started, and his plans for the future helped it grow. Many of the good things Americans enjoy today have come from Jefferson’s devotion to human rights. Jefferson is often called the founder of the Democratic party. Many other groups also claim to follow his principles. He developed the theory of state’s rights, which was against giving much authority to the federal government. He is known to everyone as the author of the ringing statement in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal, that among their inalienable rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. His writings have stood as a torch to the defenders of individual freedom, in spiritual as well as in worldly affairs. Excerpted  from Compton’s Interactive Encyclopedia  Deluxe, Copyright 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997. The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Thomas Jefferson, because he was the author of the Declaration of Independence and the embodiment of our nation’s expression of freedom, is the Founding Father who is most often claimed by the Christians as one of their own. Unfortunately–for them–he left behind many writings which lead us to conclude that his beliefs were quite different from those of the common christian. The claim that Thomas Jefferson was a Christian can only be made by someone who has never read his original writings. Christians may think that just because he mentions “god”, that makes him a Christian just like them. Jefferson absolutely believed in a god-but not the god of orthodox Christianity. He was a Deist (Nature’s God) and not a Christian (the trinitarian God of Abraham and Issac).

The most famous “out of context” religious quote of Thomas Jefferson is to be found in the Jefferson Memorial in Washington D.C.. Around the rotunda of the Jefferson Memorial, in large gold letters, is the quote: “I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN.” The quote was taken completely out of context from a letter that Jefferson wrote to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800. The quote put in its original context says just the opposite of the pious sentiment it is made to say. In his letter to Dr. Rush, Jefferson is talking about the Christian clergy who were working against his being elected President by saying Jefferson was an infidel. The complete quote says: ” The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their (the Christian clergy) hopes, and they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the minds of man.” So we see that in his letter Jefferson is saying that “tyranny over the mind of man” that he is opposed to are the schemes of the Christian clergy, and the god he is referring to is the god of Deism, not the god of the Christians.

 “If by religion we are to understand sectarian dogmas, in which no two of them agree, then your exclamation on that hypothesis is just, “that this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.” But if the moral precepts, innate in man, and made part of his physical constitution, as necessary for a social being, if the sublime doctrines of philanthropism and deism taught us by Jesus of Nazareth, in which all agree, constitute true religion, then without it, this would be, as you again say, “something not fit to be named even, indeed, a hell.”-Letter to John Adams, May 5, 1817

From the link Thomas Jefferson’s statements against Christianity

I now offer many of the words of President Thomas Jefferson against Christianity.

“Difference of opinion is advantageous in religion. The several sects perform the office of a common censor over each other. Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.” -Notes on Virginia.

“On the dogmas of religion,as distinguished from moral principles, all mankind, from the beginning of the world to this day, have been quarreling, fighting, burning and torturing one another, for abstractions unintelligible to themselves and all others, and absolutely beyond the comprehension of the human mind.-To Carey 1816

Creeds have been the bane of the Christian church….made of Christendom a slaughter-house. -To Benjamin Waterhouse, June 26, 1822.

Christianity neither is, nor ever was, part of the Common Law.” -Letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, 1814.

“…I am not afraid of priests. They have tried upon me all their various batteries of pious whining, hypocritical canting, lying and slandering. I have contemplated their order from the Magi of the East to the Saints of the West and I have found no difference of character, but of more or less caution, in proportion to their information or ignorance on whom their interested duperies were to be played off. Their sway in New England is indeed formidable. No mind beyond mediocrity dares there to develop itself.” -Letter to Horatio Spofford, 1816.

“In every country and in every age, the priests has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot….they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose it is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” -Letter to Horatio Spafford, Marcy 17, 1814.

“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith, or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that the act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no laws respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof’, thus building a wall of separation between church and State.” -Letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT.

“The legitimate powers of the government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

“I have recently been examining all known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.”

“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”-in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813.

“No one sees with greater pleasure than myself the progress of reason in its advances towards rational Christianity. When we shall have done away the incomprehensible jargon of the Trinitarian arithmetic, that three are one, and one is three; when we shall have knocked down the artificial scaffolding, raised to mask from view the simple structure of Jesus; when, in short, we shall have unlearned everything which has been taught since His day, and get back to the pure and simple doctrines He inculcated, we shall then be truly and worthily His disciples; and my opinion is that if nothing had ever been added to what flowed purely from His lips, the whole world would at this day have been Christian. I know that the case you cite, of Dr. Drake, has been a common one. The religion-builders have so distorted and deformed the doctrines of Jesus, so muffled them in mysticisms, fancies and falsehoods, have caricatured them into forms so monstrous and inconceivable, as to shock reasonable thinkers, to revolt them against the whole, and drive them rashly to pronounce its Founder an impostor. Had there never been a commentator, there never would have been an infidel.”-Letter to Timothy Pickering, 21 Feb 1821

“It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three; and yet the one is not three, and the three are not one: to divide mankind by a single letter into [“consubstantialists and like-substantialists”]. But this constitutes the craft, the power and the profit of the priests. Sweep away their gossamer fabrics of factitious religion, and they would catch no more flies. We should all then, like the Quakers, live without an order of priests, moralize for ourselves, follow the oracle of conscience, and say nothing about what no man can understand, nor therefore believe; for I suppose belief to be the assent of the mind to an intelligible proposition.”-Letter to John Adams, August 22, 1813

“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.”-Letter to John Adams, April 11 1823

The office of reformer of the superstitions of a nation is ever dangerous. Jesus had to walk on the perilous confines of reason and religion; and a step to right or left might place Him within the grasp of the priests of the superstition, a bloodthirsty race, as cruel and remorseless as the Being whom they represented as the family God of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob, and the local God of Israel. They were constantly laying snares, too, to entangle Him in the web of the law. He was justifiable, therefore, in avoiding these by evasions, by sophisms, by misconstructions and misapplications of scraps of the prophets, and in defending Himself with these their own weapons, as sufficient, ad homines, at least. That Jesus did not mean to impose Himself on mankind as the Son of God, physically speaking, I have been convinced by the writings of men more learned than myself in the lore.”-Letter to William Short, August 4, 1820

“The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs.”-Letter to James Smith, December 8, 1822

“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”-Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state”, therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society. We have solved ? the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”-in a speech to the Virginia Baptists, 1808

“I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.”-letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799

“There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites.”

A lot of these quotes was obtained by the above web page link and the following one.

88 Founding Father Quotes That Will Enrage The Religious Right by Tiffany Willis
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President John Adams words against Christianity

President John Adams realized the world would be a better place of there were no religion in it.
President John Adams realized the world would be a better place of there were no religion in it.

The second president of the United States was John    Adams, lawyer and diplomat. Adams’ public career lasted more than 35 years.    He was second only to George Washington in making a place for the young United    States among the nations of the world. In his devotion to the country he was    second to none. Excerpted from Compton’s Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe,Copyright © 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997 The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Some of John Adams words AGAINST Christianity:

“The priesthood have,    in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning.  And ever since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY?  The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality, is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded.  But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest  proof, and you will find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your eyes and hand, and fly into your face and eyes.” – letter to John Taylor

“The question before the human race is, whether the God of Nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?”

“As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that  millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?” -letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

“Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?”

“Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.“

“God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there will never be any liberal science in the world.”

“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”-A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America 1787-1788

“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” 1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

“I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved– the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!”-letter to Thomas Jefferson

“Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?”-letter to Thomas Jefferson

“Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God … What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be.” Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.

“We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.”— letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785

“The human understanding is a revelation from its maker, which can never be disputed or doubted. There can be no scepticism, Pyrrhonism, or incredulity or infidelity here. No prophecies, no miracles are necessary to prove this celestical communication. This revelation has made it certain that two and one make three, and that one is not three nor can three be one. We can never be so certain of any prophecy, or the fulfillment of any prophecy, or of any miracle, or the design of any miracle, as we are from the revelation of nature, that is, nature’s God, that two and two are equal to four.”-Letter to Thomas Jefferson, 14 September 1813.

Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom

Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, Paragraph II
Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, Paragraph II

The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom is a statement about both freedom of conscience and the principle of separation of church and state. Written by Thomas Jefferson and passed by the Virginia General Assembly on January 16, 1786, it is the forerunner of the first amendment protections for religious freedom. Divided into three paragraphs, the statute is rooted in Jefferson’s philosophy. It could be passed in Virginia because Dissenting sects there (particularly Baptists, Presbyterians, and Methodists) had petitioned strongly during the preceding decade for religious liberty, including the separation of church and state.Jefferson had argued in the Declaration of Independence that “the laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle [man]….” The first paragraph of the religious statute proclaims one of those entitlements, freedom of thought. To Jefferson, “Nature’s God,” who is undeniably visible in the workings of the universe, gives man the freedom to choose his religious beliefs. This is the divinity whom deists of the time accepted—a God who created the world and is the final judge of man, but who does not intervene in the affairs of man. This God who gives man the freedom to believe or not to believe is also the God of the Christian sects.

The second paragraph is the act itself, which states that no person can be compelled to attend any church or support it with his taxes. It says that an individual is free to worship as he pleases with no discrimination.

II. Be it enacted by the General Assembly, that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.

Now, while anyone has a right to practice any religion they wish to practice, they do NOT have a right to force others to follow their religion. They do NOT have a right to make laws based upon their religious ideology. They do NOT have a right to demand that everyone follows their religious practices, or ideology, or continue to lie about how our nation was founded on Christianity, or lie about how all the “Founding Fathers” were Christians. Their own words prove they were not Christians, they were Deists, except for John Jay,  that they despised Christianity, that they insulted and denigrated it, and truly wanted a separation of church and state.

It is time to take a stand against the Christo-Fascists, who seek to take us back to the Dark Ages by attempting to force us to live by their religious bullshit. They seek to deny other citizens of the United States, the same rights they enjoy under our Constitution and Bill of Rights. They seek to deny women their right to what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. They seek to deny women even the basic rights of control over their own bodies. They want to go back to the days where women were at the mercy of men. They seek to deny rights to gays and lesbians, cherry picking which bible verses they demand the rest of the United States should follow, while ignoring a lot of other bible verses that would condemn them.

The hypocrisy and tactics of these Christo-Fascists, taking for instance Kim Davis, who is three times divorced, four times married, and would be deemed an adulteress and whore in her bible and it is commanded by the bible, that she should be put to death for her adulteries, but proclaims how evil same sex marriage is. She states she has been saved and therefor is no longer under the sin of adultery, but each and every time she lays with her fourth husband? She commits adultery again. Yet, the Reich-Wing ChristoFascists have chosen her as just one of the many they support, because she speaks the same self-righteous, cherry-picking, bible thumping language these ChristoFascists speak.

Again, it is high time, we truly stand up to these ChristoFascists who seek to take over our country and install their psychotic, bigoted, jack-booted Nazi like religion upon us all.

Part of this blog posting information comes from the following link Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom